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Date:      Fri, 26 Jul 2002 17:29:02 -0700
From:      "Michael Wells" <mwvw@adelphia.net>
To:        "Peter Leftwich" <Hostmaster@Video2Video.Com>, "FreeBSD LIST" <FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: Peter heads back to M$FT WinBloze
Message-ID:  <00d301c23504$9bbe0c60$0a01a8c0@mswolf>
References:  <20020726195011.N18019-100000@earl-grey.cloud9.net>

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Peter,

I can surely understand your frustrations.  I have has some real X86
issues lately and have had to spend literally hours fixing my own
mistakes trying to upgrade my source.  I am getting hooked on this
OS for one reason.  I like the "just because I can part of it".   I like
the fact that I have control over things.  I am also excited about the
chance to start porting some software to FreeBSD.  I guess I am
an activist at heart.  It's hard for me to sit idly by and watch others
have all the fun.  That being said, I think it would be a long time before
I could be totally M$ free as much as I want to.  This list has been
extremely helpful in getting me through several issues.  One idea
I have been thinking about is creating local support groups.  I notice
you are in La Jolla and I am in Carlsbad.  A local call or a stop off
at the starbucks to exchange some ideas would be an easy task.
I can imagine several local support groups making up regional groups.
I am involved with HAM radio and these guys know the meaning
of community and it's not just on the radio.  I might be dreaming
but the same could be reality for the BSD community.  What ever
you choose the best of luck to you!

Michael

----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Leftwich" <Hostmaster@Video2Video.Com>
To: "FreeBSD LIST" <FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 5:06 PM
Subject: Peter heads back to M$FT WinBloze


> Dear List, I've been reading some compelling posts lately about people
> giving up on FreeBSD, and may soon -- sadly -- join their ranks!
>
> (There was the guy who posted about FreeBSD being great for servers
> (surely) but falling short in the desktop/workstation/laptop AND
> ease-of-use category.  Now there's the thread about Dan wanting his xp
> back.  I can relate!)
>
> I gave up on Win98 SR1 (1 38gb partition on a 40gb HD) back in Feb 2002
> when I installed a Firewire card and Windows got super flakey on me.
> Didn't like me for that move.  I'd often abuse IE (browser) for hours
until
> it brought the stupid 16bit DOS-based OS down with it.  Well, after
> deciding "that's it" and some PartitionMagic four-ways, I blew the dust
off
> my FreeBSD 4.3 CDROMs and installed them by the seat of my pants, but
could
> never get XFree86 3.3.6 working - blank screen!
>
> Well at some point recently I ran `boot0cfg /dev/ad0s2` which wiped my MBR
> completely (I just wanted to boot straight into FreeBSD but still keep the
> DOS slice around as mountable).  So now I'm on an old 8.4gb HD that I
> booted to absolutely $FREE$ :) floppies and put 4.6 onto, however, XFree86
> 4.2.0 now suddenly works as does KDE and a very "krashy" Konqueror browser
(sigh).
>
> Realizing that plugins are impossible (Flash), and the hassle of getting
> sound players working and my Canon scanner and webcam and PDF readers and
> *.DOC readers, I think I may be out of the FreeBSD workstation game.
>
> Finally going from UNIX user (since 1992) to sysadmin was a terrific
> learning experience, but a "learning XP" seems more attractive for now
> especially as XP is built on (sort of) NT and is 32bit and uses protected
> memory ... until FreeBSD is 34,523,455% more of an OUT-OF-THE-BOX-GUI OS.
:(
>
> Comments?  Admonitions?  Saving graces?
>
> --
> Peter Leftwich
> President & Founder
> Video2Video Services
> Box 13692, La Jolla, CA, 92039 USA
> +1-413-403-9555
>
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