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Date:      Sat, 8 Dec 2001 05:30:10 +0100
From:      "Anthony Atkielski" <anthony@freebie.atkielski.com>
To:        "James Howard" <howardjp@Glue.umd.edu>, "Brad Knowles" <brad.knowles@skynet.be>
Cc:        "Konstantinos Konstantinidis" <kkonstan@duth.gr>, <chat@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: A breath of fresh air..
Message-ID:  <00de01c17fa1$06539e10$0a00000a@atkielski.com>
References:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0112071730170.8200-100000@y.glue.umd.edu> <006c01c17f70$8782de50$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <a05101005b837406671a6@[10.0.1.16]>

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Brad writes:

> Yup.  Just pull up a shell window.

How do you get out of the GUI and back to a simple console?

> Yup, although Apple doesn't ship this software
> by default.

Hmm ... so what are they using for a GUI?  I thought one of the huge
advantages to UNIX was the variety of X servers and clients available, but
you seem to be saying that this Mac version of UNIX fails to adhere to
standards for its GUI.

> Dunno, haven't tried it.  In the absence of any
> other data, I have to assume that it can.

Well, what daemons are running?  I presume that this UNIX system provides
all the usual commands?

Indeed, if it is a UNIX system in every sense of the word, how can you avoid
knowing whether or not it allows remote connections?  Isn't there any
indication of this when the machine boots, before it starts the GUI?




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