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Date:      Tue, 24 Jul 2001 20:33:35 -0700
From:      "Jason DiCioccio" <geniusj@bluenugget.net>
To:        "Rev. K Kanno" <presence@churchofinformationwarfare.org>, "Sung Nae Cho" <sucho2@quasar.phys.vt.edu>
Cc:        <freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org>
Subject:   Re: FreeBSD needs to awake and come out of SERVER only market!
Message-ID:  <030801c114ba$96287170$bf960340@jason8bo2vxz5e>
References:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0107241745020.34308-100000@shell-2.enteract.com>

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I don't think there are enough resources to do something like this.  How can
someone predict what support you want in your servers?  If you want your own
kernel, build it yourself.. Or build your own kernel/config file and use it
across all the servers assuming they're similar.  I don't think the FreeBSD
team should have to have 10 different maintained kernel builds just to
satisfy everyone.

Cheers,
-JD-

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rev. K Kanno" <presence@churchofinformationwarfare.org>
To: "Sung Nae Cho" <sucho2@quasar.phys.vt.edu>
Cc: <freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org>
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 3:51 PM
Subject: Re: FreeBSD needs to awake and come out of SERVER only market!


> On Tue, 24 Jul 2001, Sung Nae Cho wrote:
>
> I disagree. I'd like to know there is always a stable platform to run
server
> duties on for the intel platform. If I want a pretty desktop with 3
trillion
> apps, I will run windows.
>
> This is just me, but I'm really sick of commenting out all the trash for
> dekstops from my kernel config files. I don't give a damn about human
> interface devices, USB and nonsense like that. Maybe there could be two
> versions of FreeBSD. A "stripped down" version for servers and maybe some
port
> or installation option that just adds the toys and nonsense desktop people
> seem to want for a workstation.
>
> Just an opinion.
>
> KEN
>
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > This is regarding that recent performance issue (Linux, Windows,
FreeBSD,
> > Solaris).  I don't care what you (people who are so stuck up with
> > stability) think, I use FreeBSD as a desktop and I need performance!  I
> > have "async" otpion turned on in my /etc/fstab, I'm glad the FreeBSD by
> > default enables the write cache for my hard disks.  Come on, wake up!
> > FreeBSD is no longer for some dorky server administrator who does
nothing
> > but chewing on snickers bar sitting in corner of some room full of racks
> > and HDD's.  And, I bet most people use FreeBSD for desktop use, not as
> > server use!  I've shut down the computer by plugging the power plug out
> > just because I was upset or not in the moeed and all it cost me was some
> > extra time booting due to file system check.  I've never had any of my
> > files, emails or anything like that being lost due to cold shutting my
> > computer.  I'm sick of this server administrators always crying for
> > stability.  If FreeBSD won't take use of all the capabilities offered in
> > todays hard drives, I won't be using it!  I'll switch right over to
Linux.
> > Come on, desktop is the king and FreeBSD should focus itself evolving in
> > desktop market.  If you gonna whine about stability, go back to FreeBSD
> > 2.x, 3.x.  For me, FreeBSD 4.x, 5.x should be more desktop oriented, and
> > desktops need performance!!!!!
> >
> >
> > Sung N. Cho
> >
> >
> >
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> >
>
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