Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 18:18:59 -0600 From: Mike Meyer <mwm@mired.org> To: Randell Jesup <rjesup@wgate.com> Cc: Wes Peters <wes@softweyr.com>, Terry Lambert <tlambert@primenet.com>, Matt Dillon <dillon@earth.backplane.com>, Alfred Perlstein <bright@wintelcom.net>, josb@cncdsl.com, chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: DJBDNS vs. BIND Message-ID: <15012.11507.801736.502035@guru.mired.org> In-Reply-To: <ybug0gr3hsc.fsf@jesup.eng.tvol.net.jesup.eng.tvol.net> References: <200102200122.SAA04466@usr05.primenet.com> <ybupugd2u4n.fsf@jesup.eng.tvol.net.jesup.eng.tvol.net> <3A934507.A0645CF3@softweyr.com> <ybug0gr3hsc.fsf@jesup.eng.tvol.net.jesup.eng.tvol.net>
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Randell Jesup <rjesup@wgate.com> types: > Moved from -arch to -chat. > Wes Peters <wes@softweyr.com> writes: > >We in the unix world have a well-founded aversion to storing configuration > >information in binary data stores that can't be accessed via ed(1) when > >the system is in single-user mode. If we wanted to stuff all the system > >configuration into such a black hole, we could've done it with DBM data- > >bases more than a decade ago, quite easily. Oddly enough, this exact suggestion - stuff all the configuration information in a DBM - came up on a private list I'm no not long ago. The suggestion came from someone very sharp, the goal being to focus more talent on making the DBM fast. The problem Wes mentioned prett much killed it at that point. > As someone said, vipw is a good counterexample. > The above schemes do allow you to use ED (if you like) to edit > configuration files. In one case it's totally free (even cp will work), in > the other you have to use some sort of vipw thing to invoke the editor and > make sure that the file is notified as changed (or integrate with the > editor in some automatic or semi-automatic way). The critical issue isn't being able to use ed per se, it's working in single user mode, with no file systems mounted and no daemons running. How do your schemes deal with that requirement? <mike -- Mike Meyer <mwm@mired.org> http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message
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