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Date:      Fri, 20 Apr 2001 09:52:00 -0600 (MDT)
From:      Nate Williams <nate@yogotech.com>
To:        Uncle George <gatgul@voicenet.com>
Cc:        Nate Williams <nate@yogotech.com>, Maxim Sobolev <sobomax@FreeBSD.org>, nate@FreeBSD.org, java@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: java for FreeBSD/alpha
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> that a single 500mhz, 21164 processor ( akin to a pent II maybe, where
> the newer 21264 alpha chip has a sorta "doubler" ) with 4 gig disk.

Sounds right.

> did u folks get a JIT with the java src code ( even if it is for the
> i386 ) .

Well, we got the Solaris JIT for Sparc, but that's part of the stock
download.  Otherwise, we don't have a JIT.  (Unlike the Blackdown folks
who got a JIT for x86 only.)

> I suppose this would mean that SUN is treating u like the commercial
> guys, and not giving u crippled code.

I get early drops and the whole nine-yards.  Unfortunately, because Sun
didn't own the early JIT (it was sub-licensed from Symantec), they don't
give out source code to it. 

> I'm curious as to why SUN does not want to support u folks
> with a JCK.

We have access to the JCK.  What we don't have is a binary distribution
license.

> would it be possible to also get the Java3D code. I'd also like to
> complete that code so I can get into the vrml/java code that some
> folks have been doing. If not, i'll have to go the the i386/linux side
> of things :{

We'd need a port to the Alpha before any of that was done. :(



Nate

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