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Date:      Sat, 30 Mar 2002 21:27:56 -0600
From:      Mike Meyer <mwm-dated-1017977276.02fe2d@mired.org>
To:        Brian T.Schellenberger <bts@babbleon.org>
Cc:        Peter Leftwich <Hostmaster@Video2Video.Com>, Jonathan Arnold <jdarnold@buddydog.org>, Zach Barnett <zpb@hotmail.com>, FreeBSD Questions <FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: Packages and Ports [pkg vs portupgrade?]
Message-ID:  <15526.33340.92839.452773@guru.mired.org>
In-Reply-To: <20020330221500.95097BA05@i8k.babbleon.org>
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In <20020330221500.95097BA05@i8k.babbleon.org>, Brian T.Schellenberger <bts@babbleon.org> typed:
> On Saturday 30 March 2002 01:57 pm, Mike Meyer wrote:
> | In <20020330135112.AA22EBA05@i8k.babbleon.org>, Brian T.Schellenberger 
> <bts@babbleon.org> typed:
> | > The only reason I can think of to do things the "traditional" Unix way is
> | > if the port isn't getting a recent enough version of the software or is
> | > somehow broken.
> | How about if you want to know how to install the software in question
> | on a non-FreeBSD machine? 
> Ummm . . . did you get off at the wrong universe?
> 
> Well, the original question was about packages and ports. 
> And this *is* a FreeBSD mailing list.
> I think a context was implied here.

Right. We're talking about reasons for wanting to install from the
tarball on a FreeBSD machine which as a port. Having easy access to a
FreeBSD machine but wanting to know how to deal with some software on
non-freebsd machines isn't unheard of. Especially if you make a living
helping people with that other software, and don't want to limit your
people running it on FreeBSD.

> Besides, don't think that packages would work very well on a non-FreeBSD 
> machine, either.

Correct. That's when you want to know how to install it from the
tarball. Just because the port exists doesn't mean you can't do that
on a FreeBSD machine.

> | I'd also add wanting a different
> | configuration than any you can get with the port, as it's not clear
> | that that qualifies as "somehow broken".
> I was *discussing* how to use ports to get a different configuration than you 
> can install with a port.
> I don't think you read my original mail very carefully.

I don't think you read my reply very carefully. Or would you care to
explain how to get my favorited configuration of Apache - which uses
the python module, a postgress authentication module, with dynamic
module loading turned off - to build from ports?

	<mike
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