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Date:      Mon, 10 Nov 1997 13:20:38 -0800
From:      "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@time.cdrom.com>
To:        Terry Lambert <tlambert@primenet.com>
Cc:        helbig@Informatik.BA-Stuttgart.DE, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Newest Pentium bug (fatal) 
Message-ID:  <17165.879196838@time.cdrom.com>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 10 Nov 1997 21:06:21 GMT." <199711102106.OAA16644@usr05.primenet.com> 

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> Well, since I own a "Multia" and not a "Miata", I don't really get
> how understanding the "Miata" would help me port to the "Multia",
> so perhaps you could explain it to me...

The other people in the ALPHA project have Miatas.  Your Multia is
thus of little concern to them.

> As SEF would say, "Pot.  Kettle.  Black.".
> 
> There's a very simple way to keep me from grinding axes: take them
> away from me, leaving me nothing to grind.  If you weren't always
> such an immovable object, then I wouldn't have to try to be an
> irresistable force to get you to move...

Terry, when will you learn?  People aren't just sitting on their
thumbs waiting for Terry The Great Motivator to kick them into action,
there are other major stumbling blocks in the way which are
drastically impeding progress, one such being the fact that Digital
has been completely and totally unable to provide *any* technical
documentation on these machines!  NetBSD also doesn't run on them, so
we can't even look "next door" for a peek at what's going on under
their hood, so to speak, and the fact that they run DUX is of little
use since DUX doesn't come with source code.

If you really want to help then either get some documentation out of
Digital using your direct pipeline to God (of course Terry talks
directly to God, hasn't everyone here realized that by now? ;-) or
get us a free source code license to Digital Unix so that we can
crib code from them.

Either way, get off your high horse and realize that not all issues
can be conveniently steamrollered out of the way just because you say
they should be.  If you think an ALPHA port to the Miata is so simple
then why don't *you* do it?

					Jordan



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