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Date:      Thu, 4 Apr 1996 23:05:30 -0700
From:      wes@intele.net
To:        "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@time.cdrom.com>
Cc:        chat@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: America the Beautiful 
Message-ID:  <199604050605.XAA00232@obie.softweyr.com>
In-Reply-To: <2281.828577114@time.cdrom.com>
References:  <199604031659.KAA28168@compound> <2281.828577114@time.cdrom.com>

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Jordan K. Hubbard writes:
 > > The more interesting question to me personally is how long *Minnesota*
 > > will remain a part of the Union.  (Not long I hope.  Better a dead
 > 
 > I wonder if you're really serious here..  It's kind of amusing, but
 > I've had a lot of my european friends ask me what America is going to
 > do in the next 50 years now that we're at end-of-empire and sort of
 > generally sick of playing self-appointed policeman to the world
 > (Vietnam was sort of the beginning of the end in many, many ways).

At least our generation is.  I don't see many signs of this in the
aging WWII set, or even in the ex-hippy set.  Unfortunately, the 
older ones are still running the country.  I hope we can hang on
till 2000, and get a good 35-40 year old President in office who
doesn't want to play cop to the rest of the world.

 > I say that we'll still be here, just fragmented into a bunch of
 > nation-states.  New Mexico, Arizona and Nevada will probably be one
 > independant territory, I expect the northies to go their own way
 > (Montana/North Dakota, etc) and California, of course, will finally
 > acknowledge the obvious and become its own country.

I'm leaning in the opposite direction -- I can see all of North
America becoming one large country.  We've almost become one large
economy already, what with the U.S. bailout of the Mexican banking
mess; the cross-border trade being enhanced by NAFTA, the porosity of
both of the U.S. borders (intentional on the north, but not on the
south).  Personally, if we manage to keep a reasonably representative
government, I don't see this as a bad thing at all.  America has
suceeded so far *because* of the melting pot idea, and more of a
melting pot will make us stronger.  We'll also maintain the largest
collection of natural resources in the known world.

 > No idea whether or not the transition will be peaceful thought.
 > Depends on how attached the Federalists are to the idea of a complete
 > Union.  My feeling is that the writing on the wall will be there for
 > many years before the first official break-away, and by then everyone
 > will have had time to get used to it.  That is, unless you silly
 > Minnesotans jump the gun or something.. :-)

Those Minnesotans could be dangerous, if they can figure out how to 
organize their mosquitoes into an air force...

-- 
   Wes Peters	| Yes I am a pirate, two hundred years too late
    Softweyr 	| The cannons don't thunder, there's nothing to plunder
   Consulting	| I'm an over forty victim of fate...
 wes@intele.net	|					Jimmy Buffett



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