Date: Mon, 01 Dec 1997 18:28:36 +1030 From: Mike Smith <mike@smith.net.au> To: Andrew Kenneth Milton <akm@mother.sneaker.net.au> Cc: jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard), garbanzo@hooked.net, nectar@NECTAR.COM, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Out of Box experience (Was: Re: How is selection made of what goes into CDrom?) Message-ID: <199712010758.SAA01430@word.smith.net.au> In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 01 Dec 1997 18:00:19 %2B1100." <199712010700.SAA22510@mother.sneaker.net.au>
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> > Does graphical necessarily have to be X ? I know that a console gui > based one means it probably can't run under X easily (or can you?). > That'll make remote sysinstalls a pain if you can't. For a graphical interface to be worth the effort, it has to be portable. (ie. network/interface transparent). That means either X (but that limits you to X-capable machines as clients), Tcl/Tk (but that may require some fancy setup work on the client system), or HTML (security is browsers is a critical issue). We've been down this road already. HTML will work if/when someone can get the security stuff resolved, and we suddenly discover half a dozen really great graphic artists that just happen to work well together. 8) > Don't forget there's also a curses version of Tk which does a fair > job. The SCO (boo hiss) system tool works this way, if you run it from > a console it uses the curses version, otherwise you get the pretty > X one. So your development of a dual-mode sysinstall using Tk would > (almost) fall out for free. ... only Visual Tcl (the tool you are thinking of) is proprietary and not available. I think that Karl L. and friends spent a long time on vtcl for a *very* good reason. We don't have those resources. imke
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