Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 16:26:35 +0900 From: Yoshinobu Inoue <shin@nd.net.fujitsu.co.jp> To: imp@village.org Cc: dcs@newsguy.com, green@FreeBSD.org, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook/contrib chapter.sgml Message-ID: <20000303162635G.shin@nd.net.fujitsu.co.jp> In-Reply-To: <200003021809.LAA16928@harmony.village.org> References: <38BE7B3D.AF373040@newsguy.com> <200002280315.TAA81734@freefall.freebsd.org> <200003021809.LAA16928@harmony.village.org>
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Hi, this is one commnet from a Japanese, (I don't know if this is a general opinion of Japanese or net,) > Where YAMAMOTO is his family name and Hisashi is his given (or taken) > name. If you didn't know him well, you'd address him as > YAMAMOTO-san. If you did know him well, you might be able to address > him as hisashi-san. I do know that adressing him w/o the -san is an > extreme insult. Adressing w/o the -san could be an impolite way in some case between Japanese, because we use such suffixes as one of sign to denote our feeling or relationship to a companion or an opponent. We anticipate that Japanese should know what kind of suffix is used in what case enough, so using apparently inappropriate suffix is treated as a kind of intentional sign. But I think usuall Japanese don't expect non-Japanese people know the rule well, so the possibility will be low, that the omittion of suffix by non-Japanese people could be treated as an insult. Also I think Japanese who use english almost don't care the omittion. If anything, if an non-Japanese people try to put the -san when they call a Japanese, I think usuall Japanese will be a little bit surprised by and appreciate the effort of the politeness shown by the non-Japanese people. But,,,, Please Don't Think It Too Seriously. If many non-Japanese people are going to think that Japanese omit the -san to insult other person, then we need to care to whom we should put the -san and to whom we don't need to put the -san carefully when we write or speak to non-Japanese, who might know Japanese rule... (Actually, I had not get used to call non-Japanese people name with no suffix, because it seemed too friendly way for me. But these days, I seemed to get used to it. Wmmm, this might be one of the first communication barrier from Japanese to non-Japanese, because there is no natural way for Japanese to call non-Japanese name, at the beginning.) > Warner > > [*] I picked "hisashi" from my email archive of names. I hope that > I've not given yamamoto-san a female name. I don't know enough about > Japanese names to know one way or the other. I think hisashi will be a name for a male, in very high probability. :-) Cheers, Yoshinobu Inoue To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message
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