Skip site navigation (1)Skip section navigation (2)
Date:      Sat, 15 Apr 2000 20:48:13 -0600
From:      Warner Losh <imp@village.org>
To:        Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven <asmodai@bart.nl>
Cc:        Peter Wemm <peter@netplex.com.au>, Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami <asami@freebsd.org>, Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@critter.freebsd.dk>, Brian Somers <brian@Awfulhak.org>, "David E. O'Brien" <obrien@freebsd.org>, cvs-committers@freebsd.org, freebsd-arch@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/contrib/tcsh - Imported sources 
Message-ID:  <200004160248.UAA30122@harmony.village.org>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 16 Apr 2000 02:41:19 %2B0200." <20000416024118.A71475@lucifer.bart.nl> 
References:  <20000416024118.A71475@lucifer.bart.nl>  <imp@village.org> <20000415231805.33B311CD7@overcee.netplex.com.au> 

next in thread | previous in thread | raw e-mail | index | archive | help
In message <20000416024118.A71475@lucifer.bart.nl> Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven writes:
: Why sport csh or tcsh in the first place?

Because this is BSD.  BSD origniated csh and many people expect BSD to
have csh of some flavor.

: What is the gain versus having it in ports?

Make world keeps it up to date.

: As I said before, csh/tcsh is not the standard shell needed for
: POSIX/SUS(v2) compliance.

So?  Neither is mergemaster.  Yet we have it.  That's not the reason
csh is in the tree.

: Scriptwriters should not depend on its presence, they should be writing
: for /bin/sh instead.

That's a specious argument.  Few people write csh scripts, although
some folks do.  That's not why we have it in the first place.  csh is
an interactive shell.

: Like I said to David, I have yet to hear a good (counter)argument to the
: points I present to support csh or tcsh or any other shell than sh in
: the base system.

I didn't reply to that because it seemed to be so far from reality
that I didn't know how to reply.

: This subject is religious and the only way I can envision to quiet
: everyone once and for all, is to just remove (t)csh and keep sh in the
: base.

*VETO*  I *STRONGLY* disagree with this.  That would make me yell and
fuss and scream even louder than the kill it camp.  And I don't think
I'd be alone.

Warner




To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org
with "unsubscribe freebsd-arch" in the body of the message




Want to link to this message? Use this URL: <https://mail-archive.FreeBSD.org/cgi/mid.cgi?200004160248.UAA30122>