Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 21:07:30 +0100 From: Udo Erdelhoff <ue@nathan.ruhr.de> To: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Translators: Need feedback on FAQ reorganization Message-ID: <20010314210730.J83336@nathan.ruhr.de> In-Reply-To: <20010314131233.C6138@canyon.nothing-going-on.org>; from nik@freebsd.org on Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 01:12:33PM %2B0000 References: <20010311125040.E31751@holly.calldei.com> <20010312003518.A77178@nathan.ruhr.de> <20010312093709.B3114@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> <20010312212209.G77178@nathan.ruhr.de> <20010312214725.B74204@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> <20010313002953.I77178@nathan.ruhr.de> <20010313124524.B2130@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> <20010313231654.G83336@nathan.ruhr.de> <20010314131233.C6138@canyon.nothing-going-on.org>
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On Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 01:12:33PM +0000, Nik Clayton wrote: > On Tue, Mar 13, 2001 at 11:16:54PM +0100, Udo Erdelhoff wrote: > > Right now, I translate the entries and tell Alex "venture forth, my brave > > committer and inflict them on freefall". With the bit, I would just put > > them there myself. On the other hand, Alex would probably be delighted to > > tell me "Go and do it yourself". > > Well, it makes both your lives easier then. A bonus. Huh? Last time I checked, doing a commit is more work than typing "Doegi, faß" in IRC (#freebsd.de) > > Yes, I was idealistic (or, in hindsight, stupid) enough to spend lots of > > time on "infrastructure-like" (nice phrase) and other work for the FDP. The > > results of that work do not encourage me to do it again. Do the words > > "excuse me for trying to help, I won't do it again" ring any bells? > > No. Check the list archives. And no, I'm not talking about the bibliography thing nor about you. The proposed addition to the committers handbook hits the nail right on its head. > Certainly not based on the examination of the PR database I've just > done. I see 23 PRs submitted by you, of which 22 have been closed, only > one or two of which generated any discussion -- in all honesty, I should > have spotted this sooner and asked you to become a committer. 28 and 24, actually. And if you had asked me 8 or 9 months ago, my response would have been an enthusiastic "YES!". > The sequence of events was: [long list snipped] Hmm, seems you still don't get it. If somebody has an idea, you either tell him "That idea is good because ..." or you tell him "That idea is trash because ...". Just pouring out your own ideas without even acknowledging other people's ideas is rude. Ignoring point blank questions asking for feedback is a sure sign that you are not interested in other opinions. And like I said at the time, I took the hint. And ever since this not-discussion, I just don't care about differences in the markup. If I think that it is broken in the international version, I'll fix it during the translation. If somebody extracts the change from our repository and integrates it into the international version, fine. > I'm still waiting for you to tell me why the quick fix of using a table > for non-tabular data is better than trying to use the markup facilities > that are provided by DocBook to markup bibliographic data. Take a look at my old mails where I addressed this point. Short version: The bibliography is a seperate chapter and users will be forced to jump around to get the information. Additionally, the reference in the main text is just $cryptic-mnemonic. That's fine for a scientific publication but sucks for the FAQ, especially the static version (txt, pdf, ps, ...): "Good books are Nem00, Kus90, Foo01, Bar02". /s/Udo -- Getting a SCSI chain working is perfectly simple if you remember that there must be exactly three terminations: one on one end of the cable, one on the far end, and the goat, terminated over the SCSI chain with a silver-handled knife whilst burning *black* candles. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message
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