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Date:      Thu, 5 Sep 2002 19:07:56 -0700
From:      Juli Mallett <jmallett@FreeBSD.org>
To:        "Neal E. Westfall" <nwestfal@directvinternet.com>
Cc:        Joshua Lee <yid@softhome.net>, dave@jetcafe.org, tlambert2@mindspring.com, crap@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Why did evolution fail?
Message-ID:  <20020905190756.A54861@FreeBSD.org>
In-Reply-To: <20020904205814.U38687-100000@Tolstoy.home.lan>; from nwestfal@directvinternet.com on Thu, Sep 05, 2002 at 09:05:38AM -0700
References:  <20020904232446.0b55b1d5.yid@softhome.net> <20020904205814.U38687-100000@Tolstoy.home.lan>

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* De: "Neal E. Westfall" <nwestfal@directvinternet.com> [ Data: 2002-09-05 ]
	[ Subjecte: Re: Why did evolution fail? ]
> So why are you attacking what my religion teaches?  Aren't you just
> being a little bit hypocritical?  Do you think that Christians just
> made up the doctrine of hell?  Where do you think it came from?  Did

In ancient Hebrew tribal religion, there were two sects, one who worshipped
the god of death, one who worshipped the god of life.  The god of death was
stronger than the god of life, and those who worshipped the god of life
were jealous, and the jealousy became a part of the persona of the god of
life, to excuse the hatered of others who worshipped stronger gods, and
over time, the jealousy caused them to annex the attributes of the god of
death, into the god of life.  From there, Jahweh/... as known today (and
iirc, as the god of life was known then), Judaism was born after ages
passed, and from there, we end up with Christianity these days.  It would
be more correct to say that Hebrew tribal elders made up hell;  you are
forgetting that the roots of Christianity are in Judaism.

And of course they made it up, it fulfills a number of low-level desires
of the human psyche.

Not that I'm not a religious person myself, it's just important to remember
that all of this came from tribal traditions and warring, and that all of
Wicca came from a lecherous old man who decided to take from Celtic and
old European religions throughout the ages, and that Jesus was a man, and
a great man, and a man who said great things.

That doesn't mean any of it isn't true.  Just because one "makes something up"
doesn't mean it's false.  It could be inherent in-born knowledge.

I prefer to believe that all beliefs are valid, most are probably somewhat
right, and none are "wrong".

It's all about people and perception.  Unfortunately, this universe seems
built with the intentions to get people to look beyond perception - things
have inherent beauty and structure at levels below what the eye can see,
people are not always what they appear to be, and enjoying it is what really
matters, to me.
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Juli Mallett <jmallett@FreeBSD.org>       | FreeBSD: The Power To Serve
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