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Date:      Thu, 21 Jul 2005 11:57:32 +0200
From:      Marc Olzheim <marcolz@stack.nl>
To:        Alexey Yakimovich <aiy@ferens.net>
Cc:        freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Quality of FreeBSD
Message-ID:  <20050721095732.GG52120@stack.nl>
In-Reply-To: <1121917413.4895.47.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References:  <1121917413.4895.47.camel@localhost.localdomain>

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On Wed, Jul 20, 2005 at 08:43:33PM -0700, Alexey Yakimovich wrote:
> My advice to FreeBSD release engineering team:=20
> - do more testing;
> - have it tested with hardware what was published in "Hardware Notes";
> - do not release it for production if it is not in production quality;
> - reread again what was written by yourself regarding 4.4 release
> quality.
> I wish to say more.
>=20
> This mail was written because I like FreeBSD and I want to continue
> using it. And wouldn't mind to wait longer for real production quality
> releases instead of start using something else. And please, I know, it's
> open source project.
>=20
> Best regards,
> Real FreeBSD fan

Thank you for expressing my exact same sentiments. I'm still a huge
FreeBSD fan and switching to anything else (well, perhaps DragonFly)
seems out of the question, but my faith is being tested a lot lately.
Having switched some of my companies production machines to 5.4, since
it was (in my eyes falsely) called a 'production release', FreeBSD's
reputation within the less technical parts of the company has taken a
large dent. Luckily they know as well that there's still no comparison
to FreeBSD 4.x; top of my ruptime looks like:

up 1124+12:15,     1 user,   load 2.14, 2.10, 2.02
up 1095+06:22,    11 users,  load 2.01, 2.04, 2.02
up 1095+05:31,     5 users,  load 2.38, 2.31, 2.24
up 1095+05:06,     2 users,  load 1.07, 1.08, 1.01
up 1095+04:46,     0 users,  load 1.09, 1.08, 1.01
up 1087+21:04,     1 user,   load 1.01, 1.00, 1.00

but then again, I'd really like to use the new 5.x features in a stable
environment...

Marc
also a Real FreeBSD fan :-)

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