Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 02:01:39 -0600 From: linimon@lonesome.com (Mark Linimon) To: Tuomo Valkonen <tuomov@iki.fi> Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ion3 removal (Re: Ion3 license violation) Message-ID: <20071213080139.GA14110@soaustin.net> In-Reply-To: <slrnfm1ol8.mqu.tuomov@jolt.modeemi.cs.tut.fi> References: <20071212213200.D576216A469@hub.freebsd.org> <200712121701.57460.mi%2Bmill@aldan.algebra.com> <20071212183542.f9bf5e55.wmoran@potentialtech.com> <200712121930.46708.mi%2Bmill@aldan.algebra.com> <20071213021217.GA3535@soaustin.net> <slrnfm1ol8.mqu.tuomov@jolt.modeemi.cs.tut.fi>
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On Thu, Dec 13, 2007 at 07:43:36AM +0000, Tuomo Valkonen wrote: > On 2007-12-13, Mark Linimon <linimon@lonesome.com> wrote: > > Further, note that my initial commit tried to do this, and I asked the > > author if it was acceptable. It was clear from his reply that it was > > not -- especially considering the following history: > > It seemed acceptable wrt. the source package; I was querying the > effect on binary packages. It would have prevented binary packages. > Also read again what I have written about the Xinerama module. > Why is it not a separate package? What is it disguised as part > of Ion, when it is not? ion-3 is deleted -- both in source form, and in binary package form -- so the point is moot. Even without the Xinerama code, I don't see how we could have met your 'no modifications' clause and still have ion-3 be able to run on FreeBSD. In fact, I don't see how any packaging system can meet that standard. Perhaps you can tell me where I'm wrong here. My conclusions from your interactions with Debian + Gentoo + ArchLinux + pkgsrc + OpenBSD is that it is not possible for us to meet your objections in a timely fashion for this release. Apparently only Debian felt like they could meet your objections, even in absence of a deadline; the others either deleted it, or, in the case of OpenBSD, stayed with an older version that predates these licensing clauses. I haven't investigated the state of ion-3 with respect to any other major Linux distributions; the above seem to me to be a representative enough sample. Of course, I'm puzzled why the deletion of ion-3 wasn't enough to end this discussion. I myself have no further interest in discussing it. mcl
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