Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2008 15:54:14 -0700 From: "Kevin Oberman" <oberman@es.net> To: "Peter Wemm" <peter@wemm.org> Cc: svn-src-all <svn-src-all@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: *** HEADS UP *** FreeBSD.org commit mail list changes Message-ID: <20081007225414.CDFA74500F@ptavv.es.net> In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 07 Oct 2008 15:47:08 PDT." <e7db6d980810071547o432ccad6n8e19a6c3ffce7bc@mail.gmail.com>
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--==_Exmh_1223420054_89247P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline > Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 15:47:08 -0700 > From: "Peter Wemm" <peter@wemm.org> > Sender: owner-svn-src-all@freebsd.org > > *** HEADS UP *** > > FreeBSD.org switched from cvs to subversion (svn) for the src tree a > few months ago. Since we were continuing to export the svn changes to > cvs (and will continue to do so), we were sending out cvs commit > messages. For the most part, non-developers didn't have much of a > reason to notice that anything changed. > > However, we were generating svn-style commit messages internally > within the developer group. This caused problems with post-commit > discussions being fragmented and sometimes unintentionally not being > publicly visible. > > To complete the transition process, I'm turning off cvs-style commit > messages for the "src" tree entirely. The only commit messages will > be svn-style. The cvs-src list will no longer get commit messages > (and will go away), and cvs-all will no longer get "src" commit > messages. (cvs-all will still get ports, projects, doc etc commits). > > In a brave attempt to try and make this transparent to end users, I > put on my peril sensitive sunglasses and copied the cvs-all and > cvs-src list members over to svn-src-all. > > I realize this breaks POLA and will cause some confusion for a short > while, but it was the only practical way I could think of to get the > switch-over done as quickly as possible. I apologize in advance for > any problems I've caused to any of you. > > In a nutshell, the effects you'll see are: > * New envelope sender address > * different email headers (cvs* become svn*) > * Some of you had your subscription set to 'nomail' - this was NOT > preserved. Sorry! > * If you had custom list passwords, they were not preserved either. > * Some of you were subscribed to cvs-all in digest, but cvs-src in > individual messages. Since the two were merged, where there was a > conflict you'll get 'individual' email, not 'digest'. > * obviously the email format you get will be different. If you've got > filters or scripts parsing email, I'm sorry I broke them. > * commit messages include diffs! Email messages can be quite a bit bigger. > > Please note that we have several sub-lists. You may well want to > unsubscribe from svn-src-all@ and chose sub-lists instead. > A summary of the new lists: > > svn-src-all SVN commit messages for the entire src tree > (except for "user" and "projects") > svn-src-head SVN commit messages for the src tree for head/-current > svn-src-projects SVN commit messages for the src "projects" tree > svn-src-release SVN commit messages for releases in the src tree > svn-src-releng SVN commit messages for the release engineering / > security commits to the src tree > svn-src-stable SVN commit messages for all the -stable branches of the src tree > svn-src-stable-6 SVN commit messages for only the 6-stable src tree > svn-src-stable-7 SVN commit messages for only the 7-stable src tree > svn-src-stable-other SVN commit messages for the old stable src trees > svn-src-user SVN commit messages for the experimental "user" src tree > svn-src-vendor SVN commit messages for the vendor work area tree > > For example.. you may only wish to get commit mail for the 7-stable > branch. You can do that now. > > -releng commits are for release engineering and security errata commits. > -release commits are when release tags get created. > -user and -projects are for work-in-progress areas that are NOT part > of the src tree yet. -projects are for WIP that is intended to be > committed. -user is for experimental work that might or might not ever > be committed to the base src tree. > > Again, apologies for the POLA violation. Peter, Thanks for the POLA violation. I think this will cause far fewer problems than making every subscriber update manually and I'm not even sure it is a violation. I'd find not getting src commit messages very astonishing! Anyone who read cvs-src should really be able to handle this change without all that much upset. -- R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 Key fingerprint:059B 2DDF 031C 9BA3 14A4 EADA 927D EBB3 987B 3751 --==_Exmh_1223420054_89247P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) Comment: Exmh version 2.5 06/03/2002 iD8DBQFI6+iWkn3rs5h7N1ERAizqAJ9a3hQzO7ND9rvAmp1YcvabTb3B8ACfXbzS n0la7zvAic6RMgwGpoNQHyw= =slZ3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_1223420054_89247P--
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