Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2015 09:51:20 +0200 From: Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de> To: Warren Block <wblock@wonkity.com> Cc: Glenn English <ghe@slsware.net>, freebsdQuestions <questions@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: 10.2 graphics problem Message-ID: <20150916095120.9a44b05a.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <alpine.BSF.2.20.1509151906420.69660@wonkity.com> References: <8F541F88-2EAE-434C-B52C-43A744F54ADD@slsware.net> <alpine.BSF.2.20.1509151329030.76298@wonkity.com> <E6FDE819-14B8-4906-8E9C-F297341781E7@slsware.net> <867fnr1lwy.fsf@WorkBox.Home> <D5276C30-F75D-4C2B-9C21-F80502CFA30D@slsware.net> <20150915225637.05c1ffad.freebsd@edvax.de> <alpine.BSF.2.20.1509151906420.69660@wonkity.com>
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On Tue, 15 Sep 2015 19:09:42 -0600 (MDT), Warren Block wrote: > On Tue, 15 Sep 2015, Polytropon wrote: > > >>> You say that you can't "quit > >>> back to the console," which in my mind could mean two different > >>> things. > >> > >> Ah! Nothing works, mouse, keyboard, nothing except the power button. > > > > This sounds familiar - X, HAL & DBUS fun. :-) > > > > http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/aei.html > > That article is somewhat obsolete and can be replaced with "Use vt(4)." So an addition of the "vt vs. sc" topic would be nice, if (and _really_ if) those HAL side effects are no longer significant. I think HAL has been deprecated in Linux for some time now, and more and more packages are dropping it as a dependency or component, and that's a _good_ thing, If I remember correctly, that's DBus's fate as well - being deprecated and replaced by something Linux-centric (probably a kernel mechanism). Maybe we can take the *Kit stuff with that trash in the near future, too? :-) > Problems can also be caused by cargo-culting an xorg.conf file, rather > than trying with an empty one. Typically not found in a fresh install. :-) > > I have configured X to work without HAL and DBUS and PolicyKit > > and ConsoleKit and who knows what stuff... but if you're going > > to use Xfce, you better keep those dependencies or many things > > inside Xfce won't work as expected. > > Not necessary. I use dbus with xfce, but HAL is not needed and the rest > need little or no configuration. Nice to hear that. Was about time. :-) I'd still be interested if system power control and automount capabilities still require fiddling with the *Kit's XML files scattered across the /usr/local subtree. :-) > >> This is a SuperMicro with a low end Radeon graphics card. > >> If vt(7) doesn't work I'll try vt(8). > > Err... there is only vt(4). I think this is just a little confusion of "sc or vt", where sc is the alternative to vt, and only if you really _really_ need it (german Umlaut support in text mode could be imagined as an example). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...
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