Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2019 01:37:05 +0100 From: Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de> To: JD <jd1008@gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Wireless interface Message-ID: <20190127013705.3e8cd5f3.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <5C4CE8B8.4030608@gmail.com> References: <CAPu-kW-0u=Eoj8NtASnD_WDnsosj_WcTEh=Zhby1DnBV3d2rdg@mail.gmail.com> <MWHPR04MB04954E8E691D98C40B68607780940@MWHPR04MB0495.namprd04.prod.outlook.com> <20190126213957.adfeb61c.freebsd@edvax.de> <5C4CE8B8.4030608@gmail.com>
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On Sat, 26 Jan 2019 16:09:44 -0700, JD wrote: > IMHO, today, there are no OS'es available to the public, > sans backdoors, spyware and other malware. What does make you believe this is true? Taking FreeBSD as an example, in how far does it include either a backdoor, a piece of spyware, or a piece of malware? I'm explicitely _not_ talking about something that you can install afterwards, or you can be "talked into" installing. I'm also not talking about web technologies for tracking and spying, because they use the web browser and its complexity, which is comparable to the complexity of a whole OS. And I'm not talking about the means an ISP can use to track its users or modify their traffic. Regarding backdoors, considering exploitable errors (which we don't know of yet) is different from mechanisms intendedly placed into the OS to circumvent security barriers provided by the OS or added by the user. This is not a sarcastic question. I'm really asking myself (and you) why FreeBSD could _not_ be considered to be available to the public _without_ containing backdoors, spyware, or malware. Sure, as soon as you add a web browser to the mix, you can get at least the commonly accepted (!) "crap of the web" if you wish - but that's not something the OS will contain in a default installation. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...
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