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Date:      Tue, 2 Apr 2019 08:24:32 -0400
From:      Diane Bruce <db@db.net>
To:        Adam Weinberger <adamw@adamw.org>
Cc:        Mateusz Piotrowski <0mp@freebsd.org>, ports@freebsd.org, Koichiro Iwao <meta@freebsd.org>, Kurt Jaeger <pi@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: category for VPN softwares?
Message-ID:  <20190402122432.GB96855@night.db.net>
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On Tue, Apr 02, 2019 at 06:13:58AM -0600, Adam Weinberger wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 3:37 AM Mateusz Piotrowski <0mp@freebsd.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, 2 Apr 2019 at 10:58, Stefan Esser <se@freebsd.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Am 02.04.19 um 07:42 schrieb Koichiro Iwao:
> > > > On Tue, Apr 02, 2019 at 06:41:51AM +0200, Kurt Jaeger wrote:
> > > >> Create a real category vpn and move everything to it ?
> > > >
> > > > Sounds better! Gentoo has net-vpn category. Just FYI, Gentoo also have
> > > > net-dialup category. PPP/PPPoE/L2TP softwares are put under net-dialup
> > > > but I feel that classification is too fine. At least creating vpn or
> > > > net-vpn souds good.
> > >
> > > How about a new "real" category vpn
> >
> >
> > I am not sure if it should be vpn or net-vpn. I feel net-vpn is
> > more suitable.
> >
> >
> > > and preserving the current categories
> > > of the ports as their additional categories (assuming that they are in net
> > > vs. security for a reason).
> > >
> >
> > I like the idea.
> 
> Creating new categories is absolutely doable! However, we have a
> pretty high bar for justifying it. There's no magic number, but our
> (portmgr's) precedent is that the new category must, at the time of
> creation, be as full as other categories like it.
> 
> The most important thing in the new category proposal is a
> comprehensive list of ports that will be moved to it. Put that into a
> review or a PR and we can move forward. Fair warning though, if it's
> only about a dozen ports, it most likely will not be approved.
> 
> My approach here is that new categories should be virtual unless the
> evidence for hard category is incontrovertible.

It's far easier making a virtual category and easier to count ports.
e.g. https://www.freshports.org/hamradio 

We have 101 hamradio related ports with more coming...
korean has 43,portuguese has 15,russian has 42 although languages are a
special case palm has 15 ports but whatever. ;)

I'd be surprised if there weren't more vpn ports than 101 so why not
go with a virtual ports category to start with? 

> 
> # Adam
> 
> 
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