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Date:      Thu, 02 Sep 1999 11:38:54 +0200
From:      Sheldon Hearn <sheldonh@uunet.co.za>
To:        Aaron Smith <aaron@mutex.org>
Cc:        freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Proposal: Add generic username for 3rd-party MTA's 
Message-ID:  <22862.936265134@axl.noc.iafrica.com>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 01 Sep 1999 16:35:59 MST." <19990901163559.A54796@gelatinous.com> 

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On Wed, 01 Sep 1999 16:35:59 MST, Aaron Smith wrote:

> this strikes me as unecessary. anybody installing a new mta can create the
> necessary users and name them appropriately.

This argument would get sysinstall removed from the release -- you can
do without it when you're installing FreeBSD.

> port maintainers have already solved this problem (see the install
> glue for the qmail port, which as has been mentioned creates _seven_
> users.) it is not particularly hard, and the existing solution does a
> fine job.

I don't think so. I think port maintainers have had to work around
something. I'm proposing a solution. So far, I'm hearing lots of
emotional arguments against it.

> i have a feeling this "smtp" user would sit unused while people create
> qmail-* users, a 'postfix' user, etc.

Actually, not. The postfix and exim ports, at least, would be taught to
use the new UID when it became available in STABLE. I'm pretty sure
smail and others would follow suit. Remember, _we_ control the ports and
can have packages install for whatever ID we please.

> i'm a qmail user, i would end up ignoring this user if it were added,
> and it will be equally useless to the large number of people who stick
> with the bundled (superuser) sendmail.

And you can't imagine a time when sendmail runs non-priveledged?

I can understand that many people won't use the ID. That's not a
reasonable argument against it.

Ciao,
Sheldon.


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