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Date:      Mon, 14 Feb 2005 08:55:40 -0800
From:      Astrodog <astrodog@gmail.com>
To:        Roger 'Rocky' Vetterberg <listsub@401.cx>
Cc:        freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: SPAM: Score 4.0: Logo contest, and lessons from the XFree86 d ebacle
Message-ID:  <2fd864e050214085579b3202a@mail.gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <4210915F.9060602@401.cx>
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On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 12:54:07 +0100, Roger 'Rocky' Vetterberg
<listsub@401.cx> wrote:
> Johnson David wrote:
> > From: Farid Hajji [mailto:farid.hajji@ob.kamp.net]
> >
> >>Remember what happened with the XFree86 project as they choose
> >>to change their license terms without community support? Now
> >>we have X.org and most relevant developers moved there, just
> >>because XFree86's Mgmt failed to address the community's
> >>concerns appropriately.
> >
> >
> > This is completely different from the current controversy. XFree86 had been
> > gaining a reputation for quite a while. The licensing switch was merely "the
> > last straw". The logo issue is very different. Beastie is not going away, as
> > has been mentioned by numerous posts and clarifications. The logo is
> > something new, as FreeBSD does not currently have one (neither does OpenBSD
> > or Linux, BTW).
> >
> 
> Linux has no logo? Nor OpenBSD? Really?
> So what is that red hat I see on www.redhat.com? Or the gecko
> looking thing on SuSe? Or the whirl thing on Debian? And the
> blowfish over at www.openbsd.org? Mandrake seems to have a yellow
> star with a blue tail somehow associated to almost everything it
> does?
> If all of the above mentioned isnt logos, then I sure as hell
> dont know what a logo is.
> 
> The daemon is to BSD what the penguin is to linux. All of the
> linux distributions have grasped this years ago and created logos
> of their own, used individually or together with the penguin
> without even the slightest problems. But look what happened when
> someone suggested that maybe we should get a logo too. A never
> ending flamefest on every mailinglist!
> We may have better software then the penguin people, but when it
> comes to marketing they beat the shit out of us.
> Lets face it. FreeBSD is so far behind *everything* when it comes
> to marketing its not even funny.
> 
> --
> R
> 
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I would like to point out that Turbo-Linux, BeOS, and OS/2, are all
currently marketed worse than FreeBSD. ;)



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