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Date:      Wed, 24 Jun 1998 19:50:53 -0400
From:      Malartre <malartre@aei.ca>
To:        Sue Blake <sue@welearn.com.au>
Cc:        Wolfram Schneider <wosch@cs.tu-berlin.de>, doc@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: New home page design
Message-ID:  <359190DD.9EFC0AE5@aei.ca>
References:  <19980624165018.A10393@caramba.cs.tu-berlin.de> <19980625052123.12105@welearn.com.au>

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Sue Blake wrote:
> 
> On Wed, Jun 24, 1998 at 04:50:18PM +0200, Wolfram Schneider wrote:
> > http://www.freebsd.org/~wosch/w/bsd.html
> > The page based on ideas from malartre and John Fieber.
> >
> > I don't know if we need the 'Getting FreeBSD', FAQ and handbook
> > buttons. Comments?
> 
> I think they're handy... if I'm seeing what you're referring to.
> It's good to have all those links on the first page. I have observed a
> few difficulties though:
> 
> The list box for the countries appears half way down the main body of
> text, obscuring part of the paragraph which comes before "Easy to install"
> 
> The links on the left might be easier to read of they had bullets or some
> kind of separator. For example, it's hard to get the meaning when I see:
> 
> ...
>  Getting
> FreeBSD
>  Installation
>  Supported
> Hardware
>  Current Releases
>  Ported
> Applications
>  Commercial
> Documents
> ...
> 
> My browser seems to have been prevented from displaying this page
> optimally. All the text is bunched up on the left, and the entire right
> half of the browser window is glaring white space. The old page did not
> cause this to happen.
> 
> On another machine, I can only see the column on the left and half of
> each line of text on the right unless I keep scrolling left and right.
> Again, this did not happen with the old page.
> 
> We have discussed the cause and its simple solution a million times.
> 
> Content is *the* most important consideration (and it's good), however we
> are supposed to be an organisation that has slightly higher than average
> technical competence. I'm not attracted to an operating system written by
> someone who doesn't appear to have overcome the beginner's misconception
> that HTML controls screen layout. Unless you provide me with the hardware
> that the page was designed for, you have no way of knowing what my screen
> can do or how my browser has been configured to display HTML.
> 
> --
> 
> Regards,
>         -*Sue*-
> 
I think that my and your version is broken. I really understand the
point of Sue now. After a lot of mail ;-) There is many thing I could
explain on why FreeBSD.ORG should never use something like that.
I propose a new solution.
No right and left table. No text on the first page. Except for news.
The ¾ of the FreeBSD.ORG main page is text for new user. But I think
than that text have nothing to do on the first page. *Maybe* a little
text like on the current linux.org site who explain very basic line of
the product. (check "What is Linux" on the main page, also the "more"
button). I dont like the linux.org page to :-). If new users wants
information, they should click on that little text or on a "New User
FAQ" or a "You want to know what FreeBSD is?" button. Or a complete New
User section.
All the FreeBSD.ORG main page should be link and news. Like the
digital.com page but without java and so much graphics. And with more
links. I dont think FreeBSD.ORG is consulted by a majority of people who
dont know FreeBSD, but by FreeBSD user who need something from the
FreeBSD page. Of course, there would be a major link for new user or
people who want to know more.

A more simple page and a concise/global view. Maybe even classified like
the yahoo! page. Yahoo! rules :-)

Cya
Malartre
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