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Date:      Fri, 20 Apr 2001 11:45:58 -0400
From:      Uncle George <gatgul@voicenet.com>
To:        Nate Williams <nate@yogotech.com>
Cc:        Maxim Sobolev <sobomax@FreeBSD.org>, nate@FreeBSD.org, java@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: java for FreeBSD/alpha
Message-ID:  <3AE059B6.2F002CB5@voicenet.com>
References:  <3AD882C5.EEEC722@voicenet.com> <3ADC3018.9D9F7E08@FreeBSD.org> <15068.24769.146325.318029@nomad.yogotech.com> <3ADC7EBD.A5D5FE7E@voicenet.com> <15068.25961.466201.569075@nomad.yogotech.com> <3ADC831A.720F92CC@voicenet.com> <15068.27106.728509.935881@nomad.yogotech.com>

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that a single 500mhz, 21164 processor ( akin to a pent II maybe, where the newer
21264 alpha chip has a sorta "doubler" ) with 4 gig disk.

did u folks get a JIT with the java src code ( even if it is for the i386 ) . I
suppose this would mean that SUN is treating u like the commercial  guys, and not
giving u crippled code.  I'm curious as to why SUN does not want to support u folks
with a JCK. this would at least make ur port as good as the blackdown folks. And
i'm sure as good as the BSDi folks, as i would presume that BSDi would also have to
have passed the JCK tests before the bin's are released for public consumption.

would it be possible to also get the Java3D code. I'd also like to complete that
code so I can get into the vrml/java code that some folks have been doing. If not,
i'll have to go the the i386/linux side of things :{

Can u tell me where the official bsd/java web page is .

Access to the Machine ? secured session via a secure VPN ?

Nate Williams wrote:

> > I suppose thats like saying  did compaq give u a 486 with 32mb mem, or a
> > pentiun III/800mhz 512mb +32gig of 10k scsi III disks.
>
> Copyright (c) 1992-2001 The FreeBSD Project.
> Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
>         The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
> FreeBSD 4.3-RC #5: Fri Apr 13 10:01:22 MDT 2001
>     nate@alpha.yogotech.com:/home/src/sys/compile/ALPHA
> Digital Personal Workstation (Miata)
> Digital Personal WorkStation 500au, 500MHz
> 8192 byte page size, 1 processor.
> CPU: EV56 (21164A) major=7 minor=0 extensions=0x1<BWX>
> OSF PAL rev: 0x1000000020116
> real memory  = 132276224 (129176K bytes)
> avail memory = 122306560 (119440K bytes)
>
> nsphy0: <DP83840 10/100 media interface> on miibus0
> nsphy0:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto
> atapci0: <CMD 646 ATA controller> port 0x9080-0x908f irq 1 at device 4.0 on pci0
> ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0
>
> dc1: <Intel 21143 10/100BaseTX> port 0x8100-0x817f mem 0x81081000-0x8108107f irq
>  12 at device 8.0 on pci1
> dc1: interrupting at CIA irq 12
> dc1: Ethernet address: 00:00:f8:06:85:26
> dcphy0: <Intel 21143 NWAY media interface> on miibus1
> dcphy0:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto
> isp0: <Qlogic ISP 1020/1040 PCI SCSI Adapter> port 0x8000-0x80ff mem 0x81080000-
> 0x81080fff irq 16 at device 9.0 on pci1
> isp0: interrupting at CIA irq 16
>
> da0 at isp0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
> da0: <DEC RZ1CC-BA (C) DEC 883F> Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device
> da0: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 8, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled
> da0: 4091MB (8380080 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 521C)
>
> Does that answer the question?
>
> > Since BSDi will no longer exist, how will u get license to distribute
> > the binaries ? How will u get the license for the JCK tests for the
> > jdk.
>
> Sun is working directly with the porting group as far as the
> 'distribution license', but the JCK test license is still up in the air.
>
> > Sorry to hit u with these questions when there appears to be some ( perceived
> > ) turmoil with the porting efforts of the sun/jdk port - but how else will I
> > know the extent of the commitment by sun/bsdi/freebsd
>
> > BTW the TYA jit cant/doesn't work on freebds/i386 ?
>
> Sure, but it doesn't work on the Alpha, AFAIK.
>
> Nate


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