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Date:      Thu, 25 Feb 1999 17:53:08 -0700
From:      Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org>
To:        chat@freebsd.org
Subject:   GNU/FreeBSD? Not by that name
Message-ID:  <4.1.19990225172551.04025880@mail.lariat.org>

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Just scanned the Debian mailing list threads regarding their interest in
creating what they are calling "Debian GNU/FreeBSD".

Contrary to my initial concerns, at least some of the people who are
proposing such an effort have an honest desire to develop something good,
as opposed to GPL-izing or sabotaging FreeBSD. However, the FreeBSD
community should not give its blessing or support to such a project unless
two simple conditions are met. These conditions would avoid problems with
"religious wars" and/or with code being licensed in a way which violated
the authors' wishes.

First, FreeBSD Inc. should not allow the use of the FreeBSD trademark if
the resulting product  were called "GNU/FreeBSD." The name "GNU/FreeBSD"
would imply that Richard Stallman and the FSF, which continue to disparage
the various BSD efforts, were somehow responsible for the project and/or
"came first." (The "GNU/Linux" moniker, IMHO, represents Richard Stallman's
attempt to jump in front of the open source parade and claim that he is
leading it and dictates the rules for it.)

Second, the licensing of code from FreeBSD (or enhancements to FreeBSD)
under the GPL would defy the wishes of many, if not most, contributors to
the project. As Jordan so eloquently puts it in the FreeBSD Handbook:

"The goals of the FreeBSD Project are to provide software that may be used
for any purpose and without strings attached. Many of us have a significant
investment in the code (and
project) and would certainly not mind a little financial compensation now
and then, but we're definitely not prepared to insist on it. We believe
that our first and foremost "mission" is to
provide code to any and all comers, and for whatever purpose, so that the
code gets the widest possible use and provides the widest possible benefit.
This is, I believe, one of the most
fundamental goals of Free Software and one that we enthusiastically support."

Unlike the FSF, the Debian group DOES consider the BSD licenses to fall
within its definition of "free software" (see
http://www.debian.org/social_contract). In fact, they're specifically cited
as acceptible to that group in Debian's "Free Software Guidelines."

Therefore, there should be an agreement that enhancements to the FreeBSD
code base should be licensed under a BSD license rather than the GPL. The
FreeBSD trademark should not be used, and FreeBSD's Core Team should refuse
to incorporate modifications from that project, unless enhancements to
existing FreeBSD code were licensed under a BSD license. BSDI should take a
similar stance with regard to the use of the trademark "BSD," especially
since it would not want to be precluded, by the GPL, from incorporating
some of the code in its own products. On the other hand, contributions and
improvements made under a BSD license should be warmly welcomed.

If these two conditions were met, I think it might be not only feasible but
beneficial to have a "Debian FreeBSD" or a "Debian BSD." 

Just my 2 cents.

--Brett Glass




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