Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 18:23:21 +0100 From: "Roger 'Rocky' Vetterberg" <listsub@401.cx> To: Astrodog <astrodog@gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SPAM: Score 4.0: Logo contest, and lessons from the XFree86 d ebacle Message-ID: <4210DE89.5060003@401.cx> In-Reply-To: <2fd864e050214085579b3202a@mail.gmail.com> References: <9C4E897FB284BF4DBC9C0DC42FB34617641AD9@mvaexch01.acuson.com> <4210915F.9060602@401.cx> <2fd864e050214085579b3202a@mail.gmail.com>
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Astrodog wrote: > On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 12:54:07 +0100, Roger 'Rocky' Vetterberg > <listsub@401.cx> wrote: > >>Johnson David wrote: >> >>>From: Farid Hajji [mailto:farid.hajji@ob.kamp.net] >>> >>> >>>>Remember what happened with the XFree86 project as they choose >>>>to change their license terms without community support? Now >>>>we have X.org and most relevant developers moved there, just >>>>because XFree86's Mgmt failed to address the community's >>>>concerns appropriately. >>> >>> >>>This is completely different from the current controversy. XFree86 had been >>>gaining a reputation for quite a while. The licensing switch was merely "the >>>last straw". The logo issue is very different. Beastie is not going away, as >>>has been mentioned by numerous posts and clarifications. The logo is >>>something new, as FreeBSD does not currently have one (neither does OpenBSD >>>or Linux, BTW). >>> >> >>Linux has no logo? Nor OpenBSD? Really? >>So what is that red hat I see on www.redhat.com? Or the gecko >>looking thing on SuSe? Or the whirl thing on Debian? And the >>blowfish over at www.openbsd.org? Mandrake seems to have a yellow >>star with a blue tail somehow associated to almost everything it >>does? >>If all of the above mentioned isnt logos, then I sure as hell >>dont know what a logo is. >> >>The daemon is to BSD what the penguin is to linux. All of the >>linux distributions have grasped this years ago and created logos >>of their own, used individually or together with the penguin >>without even the slightest problems. But look what happened when >>someone suggested that maybe we should get a logo too. A never >>ending flamefest on every mailinglist! >>We may have better software then the penguin people, but when it >>comes to marketing they beat the shit out of us. >>Lets face it. FreeBSD is so far behind *everything* when it comes >>to marketing its not even funny. >> >>-- >>R > > I would like to point out that Turbo-Linux, BeOS, and OS/2, are all > currently marketed worse than FreeBSD. ;) And afaik, both BeOS and OS/2 are dead. None of them died because of inferior quality or lack of innovation. -- R
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