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Date:      Tue, 19 Dec 2000 12:25:43 -0500
From:      Dennis <dennis@etinc.com>
To:        Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@critter.freebsd.dk>
Cc:        freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: FreeBSD vs Linux, Solaris, and NT 
Message-ID:  <5.0.0.25.0.20001219120619.020cbac0@mail.etinc.com>
In-Reply-To: <43070.977244298@critter>
References:  <Your message of "Tue, 19 Dec 2000 11:43:17 EST." <5.0.0.25.0.20001219111044.020739e0@mail.etinc.com>

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At 11:44 AM 12/19/2000, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
>In message <5.0.0.25.0.20001219111044.020739e0@mail.etinc.com>, Dennis=
 writes:
> >
> >>Device Drivers
> >>--------------
> >>I don=B4t like binary only device drivers. The code of an operating
> >>system is more complex than a driver. if a company does not want to
> >>publish the sourcecode, the should go away.
> >
> >You've lost all credibility here.
>
>We have a saying in Denmark, which I'm sure exist in as many forms
>as there are languages in the world:
>
>    "A thief belive everybody steals."
>
>Dennis, considering the recorded history of your arguments in our
>mailing list archives, hearing you come out and praise closed source
>drivers for open source OS's rings very very hollow.

did you even read my comments, you blubbering moron? lol. I said NOTHING=20
about theft. Zero. I guess you dont read english very well.

I didnt "praise" closed source. I said there is arguable reasoning behind=20
preferring supported binary drivers that work over incomplete source=20
drivers. Selecting an OS based solely on this criteria is just plain=20
stupid. Drivers generally do not require changes unless they are buggy. And=
=20
the general public is generally no capable of maintaining a card driver=20
with intricate knowledge of the controllers, which is no simple task.

We have a saying in the US. "communism failed because its very essence=20
breeds mediocrity".  Your inabiltity to understand a business model that=20
includes protecting corporate-funded assets, when MOST of the world's=20
corporations adhere exclusively to such a model, shows how little you know=
=20
about business in general.

Your stupidity is also is emphasized by the fact that no major manufacturer=
=20
has supported drivers for freebsd. Intel wont even help by providing docs.=
=20
Bravo. What a WIN for the freebsd community. You've done a tremendous job=20
marketing your concept.

Am I a thief because my company provides value added solutions without=20
source to our enhancements on a freebsd platform? If you are insulted that=
=20
other people are using your work without paying for it then it sounds like=
=20
you dont fit in very well with the "open source" community Mr. Kamp.

DB




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