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Date:      Thu, 11 Jun 2020 16:17:45 +0800
From:      Warren Hua <warren@boxsci.com>
To:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: freebsd vs. netbsd
Message-ID:  <53a6833e-db63-2395-4d2e-f05a9b1fb269@boxsci.com>
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Hello Ralf,

Since we are discussing with email, can I ask why you choose this 
rocketmail.com email account?

b/c yahoo/rocketmail has the strictest policy on DMARC, thus it breaks 
any mailing list forwarding. As you see,  for every email sent from you 
the sender is replaced with the list address itself.

What's the DKIM for rocketmail.com:

_dmarc.rocketmail.com.  1799    IN      TXT     "v=DMARC1; p=reject; 
pct=100; rua=mailto:dmarc_y_rua@yahoo.com;"

p=reject is a bad setting in my opinion since it breaks any forwarding 
(including list).

I asked this question for no special meanings but just curious.

Thanks.

Ralf Mardorf via freebsd-questions wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Jun 2020 23:13:10 -0600, @lbutlr wrote:
>> On 10 Jun 2020, at 23:06, Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de> wrote:
>>> However, I assume that the use of "reply to all" is so convenient it
>>> is often preferred to "reply to mailing list", that's why sometimes
>>> replies are send "twice"…
>>
>> A smart MUA (is there one) you have a reply button that replied sender
>> if the messages was directly to you, replied to list if the message
>> was from a list, and made you hit a difficult chorded sequence of 47
>> keys in precise order in less than 4 seconds to reply to all.
> 
> It's not just a question of a "smart" MUA.
> 
> There are two different "smart" approaches. Depending on mailing
> list settings, formatted headers of the user and the wanted result, both
> have got pros and cons.
> 
> Either "reply all" or "reply" could invoke a mailing list reply in a
> smart way.
> 
> However, it depends on the wanted result and the headers of the sender
> and kept or overridden headers by the mailing list.
> 
> Btw. the mailing list never sends 2 replies. One reply is from the
> list, the other directly from the sender. It's even possible to disable
> duplicated messages by mailman, but then you'll receive a reply without
> mailing list header, IOW just the reply from the sender. IOW it's a
> cheap workaround, it's not smart.
> 
> A "smart" solutions always providing the mailing list header is
> possible, but hard to achieve. It only works if the common goal is
> defined and all pull together.
> 
> It requires agreement regarding the content of the Reply-To and
>  From headers.
> 
> A problem could be that some MUAs usually only provide
> one of the two options, but it's required that depending on the goal
> the user can chose between "reply all" or "reply" to invoke a
> mailing list reply.
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