Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2015 23:06:50 -0400 From: "William F. Dudley Jr." <wfdudley@gmail.com> To: kpneal@pobox.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: portmaster -af fails due to dead port - HELP Message-ID: <5595FC4A.6020402@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <20150703023514.GA4554@neutralgood.org> References: <CAFsnNZK120bMrk3qUX2AHK_y%2BZtf_xYC8feqYrHChharh7rv=Q@mail.gmail.com> <20150702195510.GA2863@oslo.ath.cx> <CAFsnNZJLKbPeOyi6M--DZyxW9oqKoMj3YECdmn0vJAzRnHSB0w@mail.gmail.com> <CAFsnNZL4ak3j7RhCBBiJ5JBh6jT=Jr%2BjO5xrdPqUQNe3Ah_5BQ@mail.gmail.com> <20150703023514.GA4554@neutralgood.org>
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On 07/02/2015 10:35 PM, kpneal@pobox.com wrote: > On Thu, Jul 02, 2015 at 05:20:19PM -0400, William Dudley wrote: >> I don't understand if this is a problem with arj or autoconf, but I don't >> want to delete arj, because >> other packages depend on it, and I don't want to delete them. I tried "pkg >> lock arj" and that didn't >> seem to do anything, in that portmaster -af still wants to upgrade arj. >> >> Now what? How do I get portmaster -af to ignore arj? Or how do I fix >> whatever the complaint is >> about arj? > I haven't been following this thread closely, but I wanted to ask: Is there > a good reason to use portmaster? > > With pkg it is easy to get and use binary packages. > > And with poudriere it is fairly straightforward to do bulk builds of > packages without touching your regular installed system. It even lets you > use custom options for particular ports if you like. > > I've started updating /usr/ports, running poudriere, and then upgrading > with pkg all daily. It's much more reliable than messing with the installed > software I'm currently attempting to use while upgrading it. > The reason I'm going through this pain is because I'm following the instructions here: https://www.freebsd.org/releases/9.3R/installation.html And it says "users of systems being upgraded from FreeBSD 8.4-RELEASE or earlier will be prompted by freebsd-update(8) to rebuild all third-party applications (e.g., ports installed from the ports tree)". So I need to rebuild the ports. I'd just as soon replace all the ports that I've built with pre-built packages; this is so much more complicated than updating packages on Linux, where it's absolutely trivial. But I like having a FreeBSD machine as mail and web server, so I stick with it despite the difficulty. Is there a *simple* way to just replace all the ports I've built with the packaged equivalents? Right now I can't get past this: prompt> portmaster -af -x arj -x faad2 -x libutempter -x ruby -x tcl <lots of stuff deleted for brevity> ===>>> Returning to update check of installed ports ===>>> No origin available for tcl~pkg-renamed~9E62-8.4.19_3,1 ===>>> Cannot continue ===>>> Aborting update and it craps out complaining about tcl, even though I told it to ignore tcl. And I pkg deleted tcl and tk. And still it complains about tcl. I've just read a bit of the docs for poudriere and it looks like another nightmare. It wants me to use ZFS, for starters, which means more disks that I don't have room for. I have zero confidence that poudriere will work without throwing tons of errors. I don't need complicated right now, I need simple. I just want to update the machine from 8.4 to 9.3, update the packages, and then ignore it for a few weeks to months. The reason my ports are so out of date is because it's such a nightmare to keep them updated. I hate working with ports and packages -- it's always a descent into dependency hell. Bill Dudley
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