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Date:      Mon, 11 Dec 2006 10:27:43 +0000
From:      lveax <lveax.m@gmail.com>
To:        FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org
Cc:        Lonnie Cumberland <lonnie@outstep.com>
Subject:   Re: MAC OS X connection to FreeBSD?
Message-ID:  <576dcbc20612110227gdb2ddb2x9f26cb15923d7e06@mail.gmail.com>
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On 11/6/06, David Kelly <dkelly@hiwaay.net> wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 06, 2006 at 06:48:28AM -0500, Lonnie Cumberland wrote:
> > Thanks everyone for the replay to my post as it did finally occur to
> > me that perhaps this question had been asked on the mailing list, but
> > unfortunately it occurred to me after I sent it.
> >
> > So, basically the Apple team took FreeBSD and the CM micro-kernel,
> > combined them, made some improvements and added some additional code
> > and then used it all as the MAC OS X core (without the GUI of course)?
>
> Yes, basically. FreeBSD is free for the taking, so Apple took. Steve
> Jobs' NeXT team had a lot of familiarity with Mach, so they took from
> there also too. A good number of well known FreeBSD people now work for
> Apple, there are a number of FreeBSD device drivers shipping with MacOS
> X. On a lark I put an Intel Etherexpress Pro 10/100B in my G4 Mac and
> everything simply magically worked. No driver install, nothing.
>


who are the people that works in apple and also a freebsd developer now?

> > With this being said, then does anyone have any experience with the
> > stability and performance?
>
> Millions of MacOS X users.
>
> > My guess is that if it is really based upon FreeBSD then the
> > performance should be pretty good from my readings about FreeBSD
> > compared to other operating systems.
>
> Having both I'd say not. FreeBSD performs better at most server-oriented
> tasks than the non-server tuned MacOS X. Have not used MacOS X Server.
> Am not familiar with the tuning tweaks in plain old Darwin. Remember the
> MacOS/Darwin kernel is greatly different from FreeBSD. Believe it was
> McKusik who said to the effect, "The differnce between Linuxes is they
> all have the same kernel, everything else is different. The difference
> between BSDs is that they all have different kernels, everything else is
> the same." Is not exactly true but contains a lot of truth. MacOS
> X/Darwin is a recognized BSD variant.
>
> --
> David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@HiWAAY.net
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