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Date:      Sat, 26 Jan 2019 16:09:44 -0700
From:      JD <jd1008@gmail.com>
To:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Wireless interface
Message-ID:  <5C4CE8B8.4030608@gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <20190126213957.adfeb61c.freebsd@edvax.de>
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On 01/26/2019 01:39 PM, Polytropon wrote:
> On Sat, 26 Jan 2019 18:50:53 +0000, Carmel NY wrote:
>> Plus, you then have to install a GUI. Now, if you
>> want to compare a FreeBSD system sans GUI, you have to compare it
>> against a MS Server, not the regular Windows version design for home or
>> office users.
> Your comparison of "Windows 10" vs. FreeBSD is also unfair.
> You'd better compare it to a FreeBSD-based preinstalled and
> preconfigured system, such as TrueOS (ex PC-BSD), where you
> get a GUI and a set of common applications in the normal
> install. Plus you do _not_ get spyware preinstalled. ;-)
>
> You also are not urged to register an account with a US-based
> company, which is a win in itself. Always remember that there
> are many people who are willing to provide confidential
> information for no good reason to any computer program or web
> page that asks for it.
>
> "The computer should know what it's doing. If it says, 'enter
> your PIN here', I enter my PIN here. I have nothing to hide.
> And I want to see the dancing elephants for free." ;-)
>
>
>
>> This is not about "hand-holding"; it is about bring the OS into the
>> modern age. My machine is supposed to be my slave, not the other way
>> around.
> This is very interesting: You consider a "Windows"-based
> computer still a PC, a _personal_, YOUR _personal_ computer?
> Especially with the consumer-enabled background updating
> processes (good _and_ bad at the same time), system changes
> are very often a surprise for users, and in most cases, it's
> the kind of "it doesn't work anymore" kind of surprise...
>
> "Windows" might be okay for certain cases, as long as it works.
> But as soon as something does not work, or stops working, you
> have nearly no on-board diagnostic means. You can hope that
> the next update will make the printer work again, or that if
> you delete and re-install the scanner driver, the scanner will
> work again. But you don't know for sure. Hope is what you need.
> FreeBSD, on the other hand, allows you to find out by yourself
> what might be wrong. Its ability to break down obscure and
> closed processes like "connect to a WLAN", which is in fact
> a quite complex process, makes it far easier to debug things.
>
> Just a few independent thoughts. :-)
>
>
IMHO, today, there are no OS'es available to the public,
sans backdoors, spyware and other malware.
Just my $.02's worth.



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