Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2019 06:50:35 -0700 From: Randall Stewart <rrs@netflix.com> To: =?utf-8?Q?Michael_T=C3=BCxen?= <michael.tuexen@lurchi.franken.de> Cc: vm finance <vm.finance2@gmail.com>, freebsd-net <freebsd-net@freebsd.org>, Jamie Landeg-Jones <jamie@catflap.org>, Ryan Stone <rysto32@gmail.com> Subject: Re: BBR patches? Message-ID: <98E195A0-AFE2-4182-BE90-493E76A0DB1C@netflix.com> In-Reply-To: <EE614FCD-C0B1-4934-98A5-F60C5054C077@lurchi.franken.de> References: <CAKy-8=jUu=dbp1s7nhYBwgeh%2BiO-XY-YEnh1MJ81aYJoopVonA@mail.gmail.com> <201909091232.x89CWl4b047025@donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net> <CAKy-8=gZ8E73PZdxb33aN=TmfigcNyTvZP4wP3M-mAy9no-v6w@mail.gmail.com> <CAFMmRNxbX5f3s0ZZk=Epr7Gu7%2Bsjat8F0TV0aX_RwoFgX0s%2ByA@mail.gmail.com> <CAKy-8=g=3LC8u_vc_3_Pfe6pgoUxpvx7N_j=xv7nRaM%2BD1Oz-A@mail.gmail.com> <D35AF884-C631-42CE-ABFD-F4AA76AA6693@netflix.com> <CAKy-8=jSdSFPJWL=cLeea-KSc=9wxR6vQTODibw7-GUh0XpCfw@mail.gmail.com> <27AD43DA-3237-490A-B3A6-C1792F9674E5@netflix.com> <CAKy-8=idqzA0-Trm%2B5gZSQs=vyXrPm40gP3AsbMf_YQj-NEHaA@mail.gmail.com> <CAKy-8=jpGvKU1khALK%2Ba5Ojp7btg7y1W%2BELtTLQaniVNtgBj3g@mail.gmail.com> <AD906F45-B083-476F-952E-3318F36BD828@netflix.com> <BCC20B79-ECEF-4D7C-AA7E-5F8A0869753A@netflix.com> <5B630235-ABC7-4122-9082-F59BCCCDE14A@netflix.com> <CAKy-8=jwoV8=gXXUCCMARe4%2BELuqDXuYY=J9Rn7ej0536xTJvQ@mail.gmail.com> <84C20AED-44B1-4673-A29E-1A6FA61D8F27@netflix.com> <DEA3139A-ED05-47D9-833E-F1631E7185AD@gmail.com> <CAKy-8=gAFZu0wWgWCNwuYDzKcyoLDwHgUPGNA%2BaLCucEfFrgYg@mail.gmail.com> <EE614FCD-C0B1-4934-98A5-F60C5054C077@lurchi.franken.de>
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Thats great idea Michael.
=46rom the look fo the build log I was sent, his blow-up has nothing to =
do
with the patches.
He should probably
1) Check out a fresh version of head.
2) Follow the instructions in UPDATING to get a clean build.
=E2=80=94 make buildworld
=E2=80=94 make buildkernel KERNCONF=3Dhis-conf
=E2=80=94 make installkernel KERNCONF=3Dhis-conf
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** do the reboot and merge master **
Then after that he could
3) Apply the current patch in the review
4) do build that
=E2=80=94 make buildkernel KERNCONF=3Dhis_conf -DNO_CLEAN =
-DNO_CLEANDIR
=E2=80=94 make install kernel KERNCONF=3Dhis_conf
And he should have it all working :)
I have done multiple builds with the latest head from yesterday both =
with and without
the extra stacks and hpts.. and I can=E2=80=99t get a build failure.. =
this would verify he can
at least build head..
R
> On Sep 18, 2019, at 12:10 AM, Michael Tuexen =
<michael.tuexen@lurchi.franken.de> wrote:
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>> On 18. Sep 2019, at 08:19, vm finance <vm.finance2@gmail.com> wrote:
>>=20
>> correcting a typo:
>>=20
>> svn co svn://svn.freebsd.org/base/head /usr/src
>> current revision: 352434
> I suggest to build/install head first without any patches. After that =
has worked,
> apply the patches you are interested in. That way it is easy to =
separate generic
> build issues and issue specific to a patch.
>=20
> Best regards
> Michael
>>=20
>> Thank you!
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>> On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 10:11 PM vm finance <vm.finance2@gmail.com> =
wrote:
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>>> Actually I am on head already as mentioned previously. Pulled it =
using
>>> yesterday:
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>>> svn co svn://svn.freebsd.org/base/head /use/src
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> If you could pls let me know the new patch, I can try that.
>>>=20
>>> Thanks
>>>=20
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>=20
>>> On 18-Sep-2019, at 8:56 AM, Randall Stewart <rrs@netflix.com> wrote:
>>>=20
>>> There have been several patches pre-this one that provide
>>> the infrastructure to support BBR.
>>>=20
>>> Release 12.0 will *not* have these patches and will *not* compile =
it.
>>>=20
>>> I have no intention at this point in doing a MFC of this work.. so =
if you
>>> want
>>> to run BBR you need to run Head
>>>=20
>>> R
>>>=20
>>> On Sep 17, 2019, at 7:26 PM, vm finance <vm.finance2@gmail.com> =
wrote:
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>>>=20
>>> Hi Randall,
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> Could you please provide a pointer to the latest patch. I had =
applied the
>>> one you published Sep-10.
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> Following is what I have done:
>>>=20
>>> 1. Picked FreeBSD 12.0 RELEASE VM from osboxes.org
>>>=20
>>> 2. Got VM up under VMPlayer on x86 laptop
>>>=20
>>> 3. Checked out latest codebase from freebsd repo:
>>>=20
>>> svn co svn://svn.freebsd.org/base/head /usr/src*
>>>=20
>>> cd /usr/src;
>>>=20
>>> make buildworld buildkernel
>>>=20
>>> [this is where make fails when patch is applied]
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> I could try to build with your latest patch - please send me a =
pointer.
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> Thanks for your help!
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 1:33 PM Randall Stewart <rrs@netflix.com> =
wrote:
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>>> Looking at your make file log I can=E2=80=99t really tell what you =
are doing.
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> Its not the BBR or Rack code that is blowing up=E2=80=A6
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> Are you cross compiling?
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> I have done the old fashioned kernel make
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> i.e.
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> cd src/sys/amd64/config
>>>=20
>>> config headvm
>>>=20
>>> cd ../compile/headvm
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> make cleandepend ; make depend; make -j3
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> I have done
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> cd src
>>>=20
>>> make buildkernel KERNCONF=3Dheadvm
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> And even
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> make buildkernel KERNCONF=3DGENERIC
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> to make sure that the build works without bbr.
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> I attach my headvm config..
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> What exactly are you building and how? kernel config too please?
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>>>=20
>>> R
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> On Sep 17, 2019, at 1:11 PM, Randall Stewart <rrs@netflix.com> =
wrote:
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>>>=20
>>> looking
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> I was at 352408.. let me update and try it
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> R
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> On Sep 17, 2019, at 1:10 PM, Randall Stewart <rrs@netflix.com> =
wrote:
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> Hmm
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> Did you get the patch I updated too this am?
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> I have built it both with and without the bbr stack and had no =
issue..
>>> there was
>>>=20
>>> an issue with KTLS before the update though.
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> I don=E2=80=99t recognize what you have below there though=E2=80=A6
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> R
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> On Sep 17, 2019, at 11:47 AM, vm finance <vm.finance2@gmail.com> =
wrote:
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> Got it - thank you!
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> btw, I tried to build the patch but its giving an error. Following =
is SVN
>>> info + make error mesg.
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> Please let me know what am I missing here?
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> Thanks!
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> #svnlite revision
>>>=20
>>> Path: .
>>>=20
>>> Working Copy Root Path: /usr/src
>>>=20
>>> URL: svn://svn.freebsd.org/base/head
>>>=20
>>> Relative URL: ^/head
>>>=20
>>> Repository Root: svn://svn.freebsd.org/base
>>>=20
>>> Repository UUID: ccf9f872-aa2e-dd11-9fc8-001c23d0bc1f
>>>=20
>>> Revision: 352436
>>>=20
>>> Node Kind: directory
>>>=20
>>> Schedule: normal
>>>=20
>>> Last Changed Author: jah
>>>=20
>>> Last Changed Rev: 352434
>>>=20
>>> Last Changed Date: 2019-09-17 03:39:31 +0000 (Tue, 17 Sep 2019)
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> root@osboxes:/usr/src #
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> -------------------------------------------- snip
>>> ----------------------------
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> ad_elf64_obj.llo reloc_elf64.llo disk.llo part.llo vdisk.llo =
dev_net.llo
>>> bcache.llo interp_simple.llo zfs_cmd.llo
>>>=20
>>> rm -f .depend .depend.* GPATH GRTAGS GSYMS GTAGS
>>>=20
>>> =3D=3D=3D> sys (cleandir)
>>>=20
>>> rm -f export_syms machine x86 tcp_bbr.ko tcp_bbr.kld bbr.o =
sack_filter.o
>>> rack_bbr_common.o opt_inet.h opt_inet6.h opt_ipsec.h opt_tcpdebug.h
>>> opt_kern_tls.h
>>>=20
>>> rm: x86: is a directory
>>>=20
>>> *** Error code 1
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> Stop.
>>>=20
>>> make[3]: stopped in /usr/src/sys
>>>=20
>>> *** Error code 1
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> Stop.
>>>=20
>>> make[2]: stopped in /usr/src
>>>=20
>>> *** Error code 1
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> Stop.
>>>=20
>>> make[1]: stopped in /usr/src
>>>=20
>>> *** Error code 1
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> Stop.
>>>=20
>>> make: stopped in /usr/src
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 6:41 PM vm finance <vm.finance2@gmail.com> =
wrote:
>>>=20
>>> Got it - thank you!
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> btw, I tried to build the patch but its giving an error. Following =
is SVN
>>> info + make error mesg.
>>>=20
>>> I have also attached the entire build log...snippet is below
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> Please let me know what am I missing here?
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> Thanks!
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> #svnlite revision
>>>=20
>>> Path: .
>>>=20
>>> Working Copy Root Path: /usr/src
>>>=20
>>> URL: svn://svn.freebsd.org/base/head
>>>=20
>>> Relative URL: ^/head
>>>=20
>>> Repository Root: svn://svn.freebsd.org/base
>>>=20
>>> Repository UUID: ccf9f872-aa2e-dd11-9fc8-001c23d0bc1f
>>>=20
>>> Revision: 352436
>>>=20
>>> Node Kind: directory
>>>=20
>>> Schedule: normal
>>>=20
>>> Last Changed Author: jah
>>>=20
>>> Last Changed Rev: 352434
>>>=20
>>> Last Changed Date: 2019-09-17 03:39:31 +0000 (Tue, 17 Sep 2019)
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> root@osboxes:/usr/src #
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> -------------------------------------------- snip
>>> ----------------------------
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> ad_elf64_obj.llo reloc_elf64.llo disk.llo part.llo vdisk.llo =
dev_net.llo
>>> bcache.llo interp_simple.llo zfs_cmd.llo
>>>=20
>>> rm -f .depend .depend.* GPATH GRTAGS GSYMS GTAGS
>>>=20
>>> =3D=3D=3D> sys (cleandir)
>>>=20
>>> rm -f export_syms machine x86 tcp_bbr.ko tcp_bbr.kld bbr.o =
sack_filter.o
>>> rack_bbr_common.o opt_inet.h opt_inet6.h opt_ipsec.h opt_tcpdebug.h
>>> opt_kern_tls.h
>>>=20
>>> rm: x86: is a directory
>>>=20
>>> *** Error code 1
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> Stop.
>>>=20
>>> make[3]: stopped in /usr/src/sys
>>>=20
>>> *** Error code 1
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> Stop.
>>>=20
>>> make[2]: stopped in /usr/src
>>>=20
>>> *** Error code 1
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> Stop.
>>>=20
>>> make[1]: stopped in /usr/src
>>>=20
>>> *** Error code 1
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> Stop.
>>>=20
>>> make: stopped in /usr/src
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 6:27 PM Randall Stewart <rrs@netflix.com> =
wrote:
>>>=20
>>> Pacing is provided by tcp_hpts.c. The current linux patches do not =
have
>>>=20
>>> to have fq.. they built an alternate means of doing pacing into bbr.
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> In either case our testing has shown that our pacing is more =
accurate than
>>>=20
>>> either fq or the internal pacer :)
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> R
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> On Sep 17, 2019, at 11:05 AM, vm finance <vm.finance2@gmail.com> =
wrote:
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> Thanks Randall.
>>>=20
>>> I was able to apply the patch - now rebuilding the kernel. Would =
update on
>>> how it goes.
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> BTW, is there any description on how lack of tc_fq under FreeBSD is
>>> compensated here?
>>>=20
>>> The original BBR patches on Linux show that as a must-have? Is that
>>> functionality implemented via tcp_ratelimit.[ch]?
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> Any pointers to existing presentations/discussions highly =
appreciated?
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> Thanks a lot.
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 5:39 AM Randall Stewart <rrs@netflix.com> =
wrote:
>>>=20
>>> You should be able to compile it against the current head. I =
re-doing that
>>> now (had an
>>>=20
>>> issue with my machine and had to roll it back to a backup).
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> When I put the patch up on Sept 10th it complied with and without =
BBR on
>>> whatever
>>>=20
>>> was that rev..
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> Looking in the commit logs that would have been around 352191
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> Hope that helps
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> R
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> On Sep 17, 2019, at 3:32 AM, vm finance <vm.finance2@gmail.com> =
wrote:
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> Hi Randall,
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> Thanks for releasing BBR patch:
>>>=20
>>> https://reviews.freebsd.org/D21582#change-xcAWBif3E9Jq
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> Could you please let me know what SVN/GIT label tag this is based =
on? I
>>> would like to patch and experiment with it. I couldn't find this =
info in
>>> the released patch.
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> Thanks a lot!
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> On Tue, Sep 10, 2019 at 10:26 AM Ryan Stone <rysto32@gmail.com> =
wrote:
>>>=20
>>> rrs@ has just posted the BBR patch to phabricator:
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>>>=20
>>> https://reviews.freebsd.org/D21582
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> ------
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>>> Randall Stewart
>>>=20
>>> rrs@netflix.com
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>>>=20
>>>=20
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>>> ------
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>>> Randall Stewart
>>>=20
>>> rrs@netflix.com
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>>>=20
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>>> ------
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>>> Randall Stewart
>>>=20
>>> rrs@netflix.com
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>>>=20
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>>> ------
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>>> Randall Stewart
>>>=20
>>> rrs@netflix.com
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>>> ------
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>>> Randall Stewart
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>>> rrs@netflix.com
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>>> ------
>>> Randall Stewart
>>> rrs@netflix.com
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