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Date:      Wed, 18 Sep 2019 07:03:05 -0700
From:      vm finance <vm.finance2@gmail.com>
To:        Randall Stewart <rrs@netflix.com>
Cc:        =?UTF-8?Q?Michael_T=C3=BCxen?= <michael.tuexen@lurchi.franken.de>,  freebsd-net <freebsd-net@freebsd.org>, Jamie Landeg-Jones <jamie@catflap.org>,  Ryan Stone <rysto32@gmail.com>
Subject:   Re: BBR patches?
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Thanks Randall, Michael,

I did "svn svn://svn.freebsd.org/base/head /usr/src"
and now doing "make buildworld buildkernel"
[I didn't change anything in configs - just whatever are the defaults]

I would update as soon as its done.

Thanks again!

On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 6:53 AM Randall Stewart <rrs@netflix.com> wrote:

> One other note.. I notice his kernel conf he sent does not have
> the right things to get BBR even to attempt to build.
>
> I would suggest using that config for the first steps.. then he must add
> the additional tcp stacks and the hpts in order to get bbr/rack and any
> other
> extra stack=E2=80=A6.
>
> But I would suggest to build with his current config first and once he ha=
s
> that in place and building
>
> a) apply the patch
> b) add the extra kernel options
>
> R
>
> > On Sep 18, 2019, at 6:50 AM, Randall Stewart <rrs@netflix.com> wrote:
> >
> > Thats  great idea Michael.
> >
> > From the look fo the build log I was sent, his blow-up has nothing to d=
o
> > with the patches.
> >
> > He should probably
> >
> > 1) Check out a fresh version of head.
> > 2) Follow the instructions in UPDATING to get a clean build.
> >   =E2=80=94  make buildworld
> >   =E2=80=94 make buildkernel KERNCONF=3Dhis-conf
> >   =E2=80=94 make installkernel KERNCONF=3Dhis-conf
> >
> >    ** do the reboot and merge master **
> >
> > Then after that he could
> >
> > 3) Apply the current patch in the review
> > 4) do build that
> >      =E2=80=94 make buildkernel KERNCONF=3Dhis_conf  -DNO_CLEAN -DNO_CL=
EANDIR
> >      =E2=80=94 make install kernel KERNCONF=3Dhis_conf
> >
> > And he should have it all working :)
> >
> > I have done multiple builds with the latest head from yesterday both
> with and without
> > the extra stacks and hpts.. and I can=E2=80=99t get a build failure.. t=
his would
> verify he can
> > at least build head..
> >
> > R
> >
> >> On Sep 18, 2019, at 12:10 AM, Michael Tuexen <
> michael.tuexen@lurchi.franken.de> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 18. Sep 2019, at 08:19, vm finance <vm.finance2@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> correcting a typo:
> >>>
> >>> svn co svn://svn.freebsd.org/base/head /usr/src
> >>> current revision: 352434
> >> I suggest to build/install head first without any patches. After that
> has worked,
> >> apply the patches you are interested in. That way it is easy to
> separate generic
> >> build issues and issue specific to a patch.
> >>
> >> Best regards
> >> Michael
> >>>
> >>> Thank you!
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 10:11 PM vm finance <vm.finance2@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Actually I am on head already as mentioned previously. Pulled it usi=
ng
> >>>> yesterday:
> >>>>
> >>>> svn co svn://svn.freebsd.org/base/head /use/src
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> If you could pls let me know the new patch, I can try that.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks
> >>>>
> >>>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>>
> >>>> On 18-Sep-2019, at 8:56 AM, Randall Stewart <rrs@netflix.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> There have been several patches pre-this one that provide
> >>>> the infrastructure to support BBR.
> >>>>
> >>>> Release 12.0 will *not* have these patches and will *not* compile it=
.
> >>>>
> >>>> I have no intention at this point in doing a MFC of this work.. so i=
f
> you
> >>>> want
> >>>> to run BBR you need to run Head
> >>>>
> >>>> R
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sep 17, 2019, at 7:26 PM, vm finance <vm.finance2@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi Randall,
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Could you please provide a pointer to the latest patch. I had applie=
d
> the
> >>>> one you published Sep-10.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Following is what I have done:
> >>>>
> >>>> 1. Picked FreeBSD 12.0 RELEASE VM from osboxes.org
> >>>>
> >>>> 2. Got VM up under VMPlayer on x86 laptop
> >>>>
> >>>> 3. Checked out latest codebase from freebsd repo:
> >>>>
> >>>> svn co svn://svn.freebsd.org/base/head /usr/src*
> >>>>
> >>>> cd /usr/src;
> >>>>
> >>>> make buildworld buildkernel
> >>>>
> >>>> [this is where make fails when patch is applied]
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I could try to build with your latest patch - please send me a
> pointer.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks for your help!
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 1:33 PM Randall Stewart <rrs@netflix.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Looking at your make file log I can=E2=80=99t really tell what you a=
re doing.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Its not the BBR or Rack code that is blowing up=E2=80=A6
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Are you cross compiling?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I have done the old fashioned kernel make
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> i.e.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> cd src/sys/amd64/config
> >>>>
> >>>> config headvm
> >>>>
> >>>> cd ../compile/headvm
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> make cleandepend ; make depend; make -j3
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I have done
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> cd src
> >>>>
> >>>> make buildkernel KERNCONF=3Dheadvm
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> And even
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> make buildkernel KERNCONF=3DGENERIC
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> to make sure that the build works without bbr.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I attach my headvm config..
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> What exactly are you building and how? kernel config too please?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> R
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sep 17, 2019, at 1:11 PM, Randall Stewart <rrs@netflix.com> wrote=
:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> looking
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I was at 352408.. let me update and try it
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> R
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sep 17, 2019, at 1:10 PM, Randall Stewart <rrs@netflix.com> wrote=
:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Hmm
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Did you get the patch I updated too this am?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I have built it both with and without the bbr stack and had no issue=
..
> >>>> there was
> >>>>
> >>>> an issue with KTLS before the update though.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I don=E2=80=99t recognize what you have below there though=E2=80=A6
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> R
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sep 17, 2019, at 11:47 AM, vm finance <vm.finance2@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Got it - thank you!
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> btw, I tried to build the patch but its giving an error. Following i=
s
> SVN
> >>>> info + make error mesg.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Please let me know what am I missing here?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks!
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> #svnlite revision
> >>>>
> >>>> Path: .
> >>>>
> >>>> Working Copy Root Path: /usr/src
> >>>>
> >>>> URL: svn://svn.freebsd.org/base/head
> >>>>
> >>>> Relative URL: ^/head
> >>>>
> >>>> Repository Root: svn://svn.freebsd.org/base
> >>>>
> >>>> Repository UUID: ccf9f872-aa2e-dd11-9fc8-001c23d0bc1f
> >>>>
> >>>> Revision: 352436
> >>>>
> >>>> Node Kind: directory
> >>>>
> >>>> Schedule: normal
> >>>>
> >>>> Last Changed Author: jah
> >>>>
> >>>> Last Changed Rev: 352434
> >>>>
> >>>> Last Changed Date: 2019-09-17 03:39:31 +0000 (Tue, 17 Sep 2019)
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> root@osboxes:/usr/src #
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> -------------------------------------------- snip
> >>>> ----------------------------
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> ad_elf64_obj.llo reloc_elf64.llo disk.llo part.llo vdisk.llo
> dev_net.llo
> >>>> bcache.llo interp_simple.llo zfs_cmd.llo
> >>>>
> >>>> rm -f .depend .depend.* GPATH GRTAGS GSYMS GTAGS
> >>>>
> >>>> =3D=3D=3D> sys (cleandir)
> >>>>
> >>>> rm -f export_syms machine x86 tcp_bbr.ko tcp_bbr.kld bbr.o
> sack_filter.o
> >>>> rack_bbr_common.o opt_inet.h opt_inet6.h opt_ipsec.h opt_tcpdebug.h
> >>>> opt_kern_tls.h
> >>>>
> >>>> rm: x86: is a directory
> >>>>
> >>>> *** Error code 1
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Stop.
> >>>>
> >>>> make[3]: stopped in /usr/src/sys
> >>>>
> >>>> *** Error code 1
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Stop.
> >>>>
> >>>> make[2]: stopped in /usr/src
> >>>>
> >>>> *** Error code 1
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Stop.
> >>>>
> >>>> make[1]: stopped in /usr/src
> >>>>
> >>>> *** Error code 1
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Stop.
> >>>>
> >>>> make: stopped in /usr/src
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 6:41 PM vm finance <vm.finance2@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Got it - thank you!
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> btw, I tried to build the patch but its giving an error. Following i=
s
> SVN
> >>>> info + make error mesg.
> >>>>
> >>>> I have also attached the entire build log...snippet is below
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Please let me know what am I missing here?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks!
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> #svnlite revision
> >>>>
> >>>> Path: .
> >>>>
> >>>> Working Copy Root Path: /usr/src
> >>>>
> >>>> URL: svn://svn.freebsd.org/base/head
> >>>>
> >>>> Relative URL: ^/head
> >>>>
> >>>> Repository Root: svn://svn.freebsd.org/base
> >>>>
> >>>> Repository UUID: ccf9f872-aa2e-dd11-9fc8-001c23d0bc1f
> >>>>
> >>>> Revision: 352436
> >>>>
> >>>> Node Kind: directory
> >>>>
> >>>> Schedule: normal
> >>>>
> >>>> Last Changed Author: jah
> >>>>
> >>>> Last Changed Rev: 352434
> >>>>
> >>>> Last Changed Date: 2019-09-17 03:39:31 +0000 (Tue, 17 Sep 2019)
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> root@osboxes:/usr/src #
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> -------------------------------------------- snip
> >>>> ----------------------------
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> ad_elf64_obj.llo reloc_elf64.llo disk.llo part.llo vdisk.llo
> dev_net.llo
> >>>> bcache.llo interp_simple.llo zfs_cmd.llo
> >>>>
> >>>> rm -f .depend .depend.* GPATH GRTAGS GSYMS GTAGS
> >>>>
> >>>> =3D=3D=3D> sys (cleandir)
> >>>>
> >>>> rm -f export_syms machine x86 tcp_bbr.ko tcp_bbr.kld bbr.o
> sack_filter.o
> >>>> rack_bbr_common.o opt_inet.h opt_inet6.h opt_ipsec.h opt_tcpdebug.h
> >>>> opt_kern_tls.h
> >>>>
> >>>> rm: x86: is a directory
> >>>>
> >>>> *** Error code 1
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Stop.
> >>>>
> >>>> make[3]: stopped in /usr/src/sys
> >>>>
> >>>> *** Error code 1
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Stop.
> >>>>
> >>>> make[2]: stopped in /usr/src
> >>>>
> >>>> *** Error code 1
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Stop.
> >>>>
> >>>> make[1]: stopped in /usr/src
> >>>>
> >>>> *** Error code 1
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Stop.
> >>>>
> >>>> make: stopped in /usr/src
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 6:27 PM Randall Stewart <rrs@netflix.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Pacing is provided by tcp_hpts.c. The current linux patches do not
> have
> >>>>
> >>>> to have fq.. they built an alternate means of doing pacing into bbr.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> In either case our testing has shown that our pacing is more accurat=
e
> than
> >>>>
> >>>> either fq or the internal pacer :)
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> R
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sep 17, 2019, at 11:05 AM, vm finance <vm.finance2@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks Randall.
> >>>>
> >>>> I was able to apply the patch - now rebuilding the kernel. Would
> update on
> >>>> how it goes.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> BTW, is there any description on how lack of tc_fq under FreeBSD is
> >>>> compensated here?
> >>>>
> >>>> The original BBR patches on Linux show that as a must-have? Is that
> >>>> functionality implemented via tcp_ratelimit.[ch]?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Any pointers to existing presentations/discussions highly appreciate=
d?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks a lot.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 5:39 AM Randall Stewart <rrs@netflix.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> You should be able to compile it against the current head. I re-doin=
g
> that
> >>>> now (had an
> >>>>
> >>>> issue with my machine and had to roll it back to a backup).
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> When I put the patch up on Sept 10th it complied with and without BB=
R
> on
> >>>> whatever
> >>>>
> >>>> was that rev..
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Looking in the commit logs that would have been around 352191
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Hope that helps
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> R
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sep 17, 2019, at 3:32 AM, vm finance <vm.finance2@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi Randall,
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks for releasing BBR patch:
> >>>>
> >>>> https://reviews.freebsd.org/D21582#change-xcAWBif3E9Jq
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Could you please let me know what SVN/GIT label tag this is based on=
?
> I
> >>>> would like to patch and experiment with it. I couldn't find this inf=
o
> in
> >>>> the released patch.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks a lot!
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Tue, Sep 10, 2019 at 10:26 AM Ryan Stone <rysto32@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> rrs@ has just posted the BBR patch to phabricator:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> https://reviews.freebsd.org/D21582
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> ------
> >>>>
> >>>> Randall Stewart
> >>>>
> >>>> rrs@netflix.com
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> ------
> >>>>
> >>>> Randall Stewart
> >>>>
> >>>> rrs@netflix.com
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> ------
> >>>>
> >>>> Randall Stewart
> >>>>
> >>>> rrs@netflix.com
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> ------
> >>>>
> >>>> Randall Stewart
> >>>>
> >>>> rrs@netflix.com
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> ------
> >>>>
> >>>> Randall Stewart
> >>>>
> >>>> rrs@netflix.com
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> ------
> >>>> Randall Stewart
> >>>> rrs@netflix.com
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
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> >
> > ------
> > Randall Stewart
> > rrs@netflix.com
> >
> >
> >
>
> ------
> Randall Stewart
> rrs@netflix.com
>
>
>
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