Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2020 12:25:19 +0100 From: Tomasz CEDRO <tomek@cedro.info> To: Serpent7776 <serpent7776@gmail.com> Cc: Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de>, Mario Lobo <lobo@bsd.com.br>, FreeBSD Questions Mailing List <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Firefox memory usage Message-ID: <CAM8r67CAaQZBzdkPSnXHAFpNnrDtAvMPdEnRtVedNyqhgY%2Bf2w@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <20201109090703.4642059f@DaemONX> References: <CA%2ByoEx9rAmDP0xoqqDsn6_a5_anRmf=6Y6nKWCxDaoza1F_o5Q@mail.gmail.com> <CAM8r67ATXU==emMG=C1dQ1tL2%2BfPuO1eyp_2RV%2BCJpd0uK42VA@mail.gmail.com> <20201109052945.6fcfaf70.freebsd@edvax.de> <20201109090703.4642059f@DaemONX>
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On Mon, Nov 9, 2020 at 9:08 AM Serpent7776 wrote: > Never seen swapping caused by firefox. Some of the opened tabs are: slack, > discord, rocket chat, twitter, linkedIn. Tho only extensions I use are uBlock > origin, Disconnect and vimium. Also not using any desktop env, only > herbstluftwm. > > I'm still on 11.4-RELEASE-p4. I am not sure where did the change come from and what is the change exactly but modern computers and OSes are less responsive than 10 or 20 years ago. Maybe it is the switch between 11 and 12. I was using macOS since 2013 and all was fine until somewhere around 2017 I noticed those responsiveness lags. Like the input mechanisms was changed, interrupts replaced with polling (it seems like that from an electronics perspective). The computer seemed slow and I did not like enforcing changes, so I have moved to FreeBSD for good also on my desktop. But for some time it also get "the same way slow" here on FreeBSD. Is it something with memory management or task scheduling that changed substantially around 11 or 12 in FreeBSD? Can I change that? Maybe the way input is handled changed? Maybe this is Intel hardware sharing resources between CPU and GPU so when CPU gets buty all system gets laggy.. very slight changes like milliseconds but disturbing the closed feedback loop of interaction missing clicks etc. The hardware is the same but the experience is far worse with time. I also work on a desktop based FreeBSD workstation with AMD CPU and RADEON GPU also the Enlightenment WM and I can see no impact like this in preformance-vs-experience. There is a 16GB of RAM in a desktop pc instead 8GB as in a laptop pc but the laptop has M2 SSD and 20GB of swap. Swap is on a separate dedicated partition. All ZFS is ELI encrypted. I have no fun of working on this machine anymore and I don't really need to buy a new machine just to get things running smoothly. For working compiling and calculations I have a dedicated machine with 24CPU and 128GB RAM. These are not the basic hardware requirements for modern desktop everyday tasks OS right? Best regards :-) Tomek -- CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info
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