Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2020 15:02:40 -0600 From: Brandon helsley <brandon.helsley@hotmail.com> To: freebsd-questions <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>, David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> Subject: Re: Minimal skills Message-ID: <CY4PR19MB01041DACEFFEF08ADB096BC3F9890@CY4PR19MB0104.namprd19.prod.outlook.com> In-Reply-To: <CY4PR19MB0104DC7541A2154B5C435EA7F9890@CY4PR19MB0104.namprd19.prod.outlook.com> References: <CY4PR19MB0104DC7541A2154B5C435EA7F9890@CY4PR19MB0104.namprd19.prod.outlook.com> <20200604074134.89eb6518.freebsd@edvax.de> <CY4PR19MB0104A2C03F4D66A1DA251A23F9880@CY4PR19MB0104.namprd19.prod.outlook.com> <20200604005859.ca438474.freebsd@edvax.de> <CY4PR19MB0104C290121BF756D57B2DDBF9880@CY4PR19MB0104.namprd19.prod.outlook.com> <20200604020051.0c02472d.freebsd@edvax.de> <CY4PR19MB0104DD86F8FE6446AD1BF327F9890@CY4PR19MB0104.namprd19.prod.outlook.com> <20200604074134.89eb6518.freebsd@edvax.de> <CY4PR19MB0104DC7541A2154B5C435EA7F9890@CY4PR19MB0104.namprd19.prod.outlook.com>
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>Writing good documentation is both an art and a science. But, the author must first understand the language of the subject. The common language of FreeBSD and CS/E is C. >The canonical C book is: >https://www.pearson.com/us/higher-education/program/Kernighan-C-Programming-Language-2nd-Edition/PGM54487.html >Once you can read C, then you will be able to read the canonical FreeBSD book: >https://www.pearson.com/store/p/design-and-implementation-of-the-freebsd-operating-system-the/P100001308622 The link you sent me for the c programming language is from 1988. Wouldn't it be better to use a newer study book? Should I look for something newer? > > On Jun 4, 2020 at 2:53 PM, David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> wrote: > > > On 2020-06-04 01:14, Brandon helsley wrote: > I started using FreeBSD about 2 months ago and have purchased books like absolute freebsd and have learned a lot. > I can set up a desktop environment that has all the programs I need, so that's not the problem. It's that I want to progress past simple editing of configuration files and minor system administration tasks like the crontab. I want to try and stick with FreeBSD as my main and probably mostly only OS. Meaning, I would like to skip the ubuntu step. It seems as though the FreeBSD docs is the way to go. Just read it over a few times, as well as the porters handbook. I'll get straight to it so I can contribute to ports and docs, even if it takes a couple years!!! Writing good documentation is both an art and a science. But, the author must first understand the language of the subject. The common language of FreeBSD and CS/E is C. The canonical C book is: https://www.pearson.com/us/higher-education/program/Kernighan-C-Progr amming-Language-2nd-Edition/PGM54487.html Once you can read C, then you will be able to read the canonical FreeBSD book: https://www.pearson.com/store/p/design-and-implementation-of-the-freebsd-operating-system-the/P100001308622 David _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jun 4 21:15:46 2020 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40A0A3323EC for <freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org>; Thu, 4 Jun 2020 21:15:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dwilde1@gmail.com) Received: from mail-lj1-x22f.google.com (mail-lj1-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::22f]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49dJTq6WF0z3y1F for <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>; 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RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.97)[-0.967]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; FREEMAIL_REPLYTO(0.00)[gmail.com]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::22f:from]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions <freebsd-questions.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/options/freebsd-questions>, <mailto:freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/>; List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions>, <mailto:freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Jun 2020 21:15:46 -0000 On 6/4/20, Brandon helsley <brandon.helsley@hotmail.com> wrote: > >>Writing good documentation is both an art and a science. But, the > author must first understand the language of the subject. The common > language of FreeBSD and CS/E is C. > >>The canonical C book is: >>https://www.pearson.com/us/higher-education/program/Kernighan-C-Programming-Language-2nd-Edition/PGM54487.html > >>Once you can read C, then you will be able to read the canonical FreeBSD > > book: > >>https://www.pearson.com/store/p/design-and-implementation-of-the-freebsd-operating-system-the/P100001308622 > The link you sent me for the c programming language is from 1988. Wouldn't > it be better to use a newer study book? Should I look for something newer? > Actually, besides being THE go-to reference on C, it's the best-written C book out there and the most elegant presentation of the basic concepts. I have a bunch. While the bits and pieces AROUND C have evolved, C itself really hasn't. I prefer the K&R braces over GNU, myself, even though most of the 'NIX world is tilting towards the GNU landslide. Thank you for interspersing your comments as I asked, Brandon. You have shown the whole Project that you can learn and WILCO without complaint! Good coder, GOOD! <wink> :D -- Don Wilde **************************************************** * What is the Internet of Things but a system * * of systems including humans? * ****************************************************
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