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Date:      Tue, 21 May 2002 10:49:58 +0100
From:      Pete French <pfrench@firstcallgroup.co.uk>
To:        frank@exit.com, holger.kipp@alogis.com
Cc:        maildrop@qwest.net, stable@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: 4.6-RC system hangs (fxp0, smp, sym)
Message-ID:  <E17A6HG-000GVa-00@mailhost.firstcallgroup.co.uk>
In-Reply-To: <3CEA128A.AB7FAC93@alogis.com>

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> Hmm, I'll give it a try to see if my system comes back also (so far, I only
> left it running for up to half an hour -- without success...).
> [mental note: I need more patience]

Mine occasionally comes back once it has hung, but thats not the usual effect.
Usually the discs are completely wedged and nothing will recover them :-(
I see the same as everyone else - stuff in memory continues to work (even
web pages that were in RAM can still be served, so the 5minute poll
alarm doesnt go off unfortunately).

I hadnt associated it with network activity (I was looking at disc activity)
but it is interesting that other people see the network as being the cause.
I *do* see a lot of "tl0 underrun" messages.

> [ I'd say this is the time for developers to speak up ;-)  ]

Assuming we have giiven them enough information -  sadly random freezeups
with no errormessages and no real repeatabaility are very hard to debug.

-pcf.

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