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Date:      Fri, 27 Nov 1998 00:25:32 -0500 (EST)
From:      ADRIAN Filipi-Martin <adrian@ubergeeks.com>
To:        Artur Grabowski <art@stacken.kth.se>
Cc:        Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>, Alicia da Conceicao <alicia@internetpaper.com>, netbsd-advocacy@NetBSD.ORG, FreeBSD advocacy list <FreeBSD-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG>, advocacy@openbsd.org
Subject:   Re: Merging Net/Free/Open-BSD together against Linux
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.3.96.981127001824.27486C-100000@lorax.ubergeeks.com>
In-Reply-To: <lubvhk2nq4v.fsf@pizza.stacken.kth.se>

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On 26 Nov 1998, Artur Grabowski wrote:

> ADRIAN Filipi-Martin <adrian@ubergeeks.com> writes:
> 
> > 	Sure, the kernel is defintely the hard part.  How much divergence
> > has there been in userland?  I run OpenBSD on a sparc and I see a few
> > things here and there.  I wonder how feasible it would be to have a
> > unified distribution with three possible kernel architectures, yet a
> > unified userland?  (He quickly ducks for cover.)  As long as device files,
> > filesystem and directory hierarchies were agreed to, it seems feasible.
> 
> I have a standard reply to things that people always have good ideas about.
> 
> "When are you ready?"
> 
> Speaking about things doesn't improve reality in this case. If you want
> something like this done you can:
>  - do it yourself.
>  - pay someone to do it.
>  - Convince someone to do it.
> 
> Generating 1000 mails with good ideas won't write code. Sorry.
> 
> I'm not picking at someone specific. It's a generic rant to all people that
> can't stop talking about this. Either accept reality as it is or do something
> about it. And filling peoples spools doesn't get anything done.

	Point taken.  However, for such an initiative to succed, there
ought to be a little discussion and buy-in from the exising developers. 
How many others would like to see a unified userland source tree? 

	In about a month I will be in a situation to provide such diffs. 
I could also probably get a CVS server on a decent connection with disk.
As you point out, people need to sign on, not just talk.

	So, again, who would like to participate on such a project,
scanctioned by a *BSD core team, or not?  The michanics of the process are
fairly straight forward, but they are time intensive. 

	Adrian
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