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Date:      Fri, 20 Dec 2002 13:23:15 +0300 (MSK)
From:      Varshavchick Alexander <alex@metrocom.ru>
To:        Maxim Konovalov <maxim@macomnet.ru>, Matt Dillon <dillon@freebsd.org>
Cc:        Dmitry Morozovsky <marck@rinet.ru>, David Schultz <dschultz@uclink.Berkeley.EDU>, Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com>, <freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Invalid FFC node allocation algorithm (Was: maxusers and random system freezes)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.33.0212201306560.13844-100000@apache.metrocom.ru>
In-Reply-To: <20021219170203.F67349@news1.macomnet.ru>

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Hi,

It seems that kern/32672 is not fixed yet on FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE.

System 4Gb RAM, 4x700MHz

When the system is not using all RAM, the FFS node memory grows up to a
limit of 102400K which leads to a system deadlocking.


***********
Type     InUse  MemUse  HighUse  Limit    Requests Limit Limit Size(s)
FFS node 361722 90431K  90431K   102400K  9156217    0     0   256

kern.maxvnodes: 229508
kern.minvnodes: 57377
vm.stats.vm.v_vnodein: 206541
vm.stats.vm.v_vnodeout: 0
vm.stats.vm.v_vnodepgsin: 838385
vm.stats.vm.v_vnodepgsout: 0
debug.sizeof.vnode: 168
debug.numvnodes: 361773
debug.wantfreevnodes: 25
debug.freevnodes: 23
***********

Kern/32672:

*****
        State-Changed-From-To: open->closed
....
        This is believed to be fixed in -stable (and thus for the upcoming 4.5
        release).
*****

So as it seems, it's really not fixed there...


Regards

----
Alexander Varshavchick, Metrocom Joint Stock Company
Phone: (812)118-3322, 118-3115(fax)

On Thu, 19 Dec 2002, Maxim Konovalov wrote:

> Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 17:05:14 +0300 (MSK)
> From: Maxim Konovalov <maxim@macomnet.ru>
> To: Varshavchick Alexander <alex@metrocom.ru>
> Cc: Dmitry Morozovsky <marck@rinet.ru>,
>      David Schultz <dschultz@uclink.Berkeley.EDU>,
>      Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com>,  <freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG>
> Subject: Re: maxusers and random system freezes
>
> On 16:51+0300, Dec 19, 2002, Varshavchick Alexander wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 19 Dec 2002, Maxim Konovalov wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > > [ Trim -questions ]
> > >
> > > On 16:21+0300, Dec 19, 2002, Varshavchick Alexander wrote:
> > >
> > > > There seems to be archive posts already on the subject, the most
> > > > informative of them is here:
> > > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=1093170+1102546+/usr/local/www/db/text/2001/freebsd-stable/20010923.freebsd-stable
> > > >
> > > > Did this issue got solved somehow? More specifically, how the size of the
> > > > FFS node malloc area can be increased?
> > >
> > > Sounds like kern/32672.
> >
> > Yes it does, but the problem seems to remain in 4.5-STABLE, how can it be
> > patched?
> >
> > *****
> >        State-Changed-From-To: open->closed
> > ....
> >        This is believed to be fixed in -stable (and thus for the upcoming 4.5
> >        release).  The problem was that the vnode/inode reclamation system depends
> >        on the VM system running out of memory and having to free vnodes/inodes up.
> >        Machines with large amounts of ram, however, will often run the malloc
> >        bucket for vnodes or inodes out before they run out of memory.
> >
> >        Our solution is to enforce the kern.maxvnodes limit by proactively reclaiming
> >        vnodes/inodes when the limit is reached, even if there is still lots of free
> >        memory.
> > *****
> >
> > Can you point me to a code performing it, if it's fixed in the latest
> > release?
>
> We should CC: Matt Dillon, dillon@. Could you please summarize all
> information and send a complete bug report to -hackers?
>
> [...]
>
> --
> Maxim Konovalov, MAcomnet, Internet Dept., system engineer
> phone: +7 (095) 796-9079, mailto:maxim@macomnet.ru
>
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