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Date:      Sat, 18 Apr 1998 17:02:17 -0400 (EDT)
From:      Irving Popovetsky <irvingp@puck.nether.net>
To:        Robert Watson <robert@cyrus.watson.org>
Cc:        freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Screen Shot
Message-ID:  <Pine.LNX.3.96.980418162626.5116C-100000@puck.nether.net>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.3.96.980418161700.15725M-100000@trojanhorse.pr.watson.org>

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Well, okay, so maybe one of the afterstep screenshots isnt a good idea to
show :)

I must say that one of the most impressive screenshots I have seen have
been the ones on E's page that have demonstrated both form and function.
One that I remember clearly is a screenshot where the guy was running  (he
fit quite a lot on his dekstop),  Adobe Photoshop for macintosh,  Mirc for
windows 95  (to demonstrate windows emulation),  Corel WordPerfect
for UNIX, a few X apps  (which I dont remember... maybe quake?),  plus he
had a little window open, that in readable text explained what was running
on his desktop.  no gore, no exploitation of women.

KDE, on their page, also demonstrate a very businesslike and professional
image.

Anyway, we should put together some of our own screenshots, to create our
own image. I run a beautiful 1280x1024 display and various WMs.   I could
put together some pretty screenshots of what kind of functionality I have,
if only someone showed me how to make a screenshot (I dont know how, sorry):

-Irving

On Sat, 18 Apr 1998, Robert Watson wrote:

> Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 16:24:27 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Robert Watson <robert@cyrus.watson.org>
> Reply-To: Robert Watson <robert+freebsd@cyrus.watson.org>
> To: Irving Popovetsky <irvingp@puck.nether.net>
> Cc: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG
> Subject: Re: Screen Shot
> 
> 
> So one unfortunate thing about the AfterStep and Enlightenment screen
> shots is as follows: a number of people I showed them to indicated that
> the objectified women (scantily clad) weren't so very encouraging when it
> came to selecting a desktop for use in a business.  They were more
> interested in a professional-looking interface than this :).  Microsoft,
> for example, does not advertise their Scantily-Clad Women Desktop Theme as
> a major feature of their windows products.  While it would be unrealistic
> to expect that people do not use X-Windows for this kind of thing,
> attempting to advertise a product as a competitor with WindowsNT as a
> business server platform might benefit from a little less of this :).
> 
> On Sat, 18 Apr 1998, Irving Popovetsky wrote:
> 
> > Some of the most impressive screenshots that I have personally seen have
> > been on the webpages of various Window Managers:
> > 
> > www.enlightenment.org  (enlightenment wm)
> > www.afterstep.org  (afterstep)
> > www.kde.org   (the K Desktop environment)
> > 
> > in their screenshots gallieries.  While most of these screenshots were
> > taken on Linux boxen, its still just XFree86 that they are running, and I
> > have been able to achieve similar on my FreeBSD box.
> > 
> > But some of those look real pretty, and make just as great of an argument
> > for us as they do for the linux people, maybe even a better one :)
> > 
> > -Irving
> > 
> > On Sat, 18 Apr 1998, Adrian T. Filipi-Martin wrote:
> > 
> > > Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 15:22:29 -0400 (EDT)
> > > From: "Adrian T. Filipi-Martin" <atf3r@cs.virginia.edu>
> > > Reply-To: Adrian Filipi-Martin <adrian@virginia.edu>
> > > To: Malartre <malartre@aei.ca>
> > > Cc: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG
> > > Subject: Re: Screen Shot
> > > 
> > > On Sat, 18 Apr 1998, Malartre wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Hey, I have seen a lot of people who where wanting screen shot.
> > > > Why not giving them the screen shot on www.freebsd.org?
> > > > 
> > > > Like a link on the first page to "what freebsd look like"
> > > > 
> > > > Unix seems strange to new user...
> > > 
> > > 	Well, I doubt a single screen shot coulw convey much of anything.
> > > There are just too many things that could be on a FreeBSD display. What
> > > would it be: X, emacs, the console, quake2, etc.?
> > > 
> > > 	I suppose one rather impressive image involving FreeBSD is the
> > > Toshiba Libretto picture from  the PAO project page.  I just love that the
> > > X11 is runnig on FreeBSD o a computer that is not as deep as the SUN mouse
> > > next to it.
> > > 
> > > 	Adrian
> > > --
> > > adrian@virginia.edu        ---->>>>| If I were stranded on a desert island, and
> > > System Administrator         --->>>| I could only have one OS for my computer,
> > > Neurosurgical Visualization Lab ->>| it would be FreeBSD.  Think about it.....
> > > http://www.nvl.virginia.edu/     ->|      http://www.freebsd.org/
> > > 
> > > 
> > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org
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> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > -Irving Popovetsky
> >  ANS Communications - BigDial Operations Assistant
> >  Pioneer High School - Webmaster
> > 
> >  grok: /grok/, var. /grohk/ vt. [from the novel "Stranger in a Strange
> > Land", by Robert A. Heinlein, where it is a Martian word meaning literally
> > `to drink' and metaphorically `to be one with'] The emphatic form is `grok
> > in fullness'. 1. To understand, usually in a global sense. Connotes
> > intimate and exhaustive knowledge.
> > 
> > 
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> > 
> 
> 
>   Robert N Watson 
> 
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-Irving Popovetsky
 ANS Communications - BigDial Operations Assistant
 Pioneer High School - Webmaster

 grok: /grok/, var. /grohk/ vt. [from the novel "Stranger in a Strange
Land", by Robert A. Heinlein, where it is a Martian word meaning literally
`to drink' and metaphorically `to be one with'] The emphatic form is `grok
in fullness'. 1. To understand, usually in a global sense. Connotes
intimate and exhaustive knowledge.


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