Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 13:31:35 -0300 (ADT) From: User Freebsd <freebsd@hub.org> To: Svein Halvor Halvorsen <svein.h@lvor.halvorsen.cc> Cc: Xiao-Yong Jin <xj2106@columbia.edu>, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Colin Percival <cperciva@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there? Message-ID: <20060731132625.X27679@ganymede.hub.org> In-Reply-To: <44CDD1C6.6080401@lvor.halvorsen.cc> References: <20060728164526.E27679@ganymede.hub.org> <df9ac37c0607281319s5da0f64ese5fa57df1ef11a4d@mail.gmail.com> <ef10de9a0607282139i51fdde5ch58525fa3347364d2@mail.gmail.com> <87slklj9hu.fsf@photon.homelinux.org> <20060729021007.F27679@ganymede.hub.org> <44CD41EC.6030605@freebsd.org> <20060730233839.I27679@ganymede.hub.org> <44CDAA98.3030702@freebsd.org> <44CDD1C6.6080401@lvor.halvorsen.cc>
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On Mon, 31 Jul 2006, Svein Halvor Halvorsen wrote: > Colin Percival wrote: >> There are still a lot of people (particularly on pre-6.0 systems) who >> are using CVSup rather than portsnap for updating their ports trees. > > Also, I would guess that some people who run multiple FreeBSD systems, > use some sort of local propagation of either the entire ports tree, or > locally compiled packages. > > I work as a sysadmin at the students computer lab at the mathematics > department at the Norwegian university of science and technology, and we > take this approach. Not that the maths department is a large one, but we > have fifty-some workstations and a couple of servers running FreeBSD. > Only one or two of which would show up in the portsnap stats. Ya, that is the part that throws the #s out completely ... its those 'ghost machines' that would be nice to see counted somehow ... How about something as innoculous as: fetch http://statsserver.domain/aliveping.php?version=`uname -mr`&hostname=`hostname` run as part of periodic daily ... ? uname -mr would have to be properly formatted for a URL, but that would give a distinct IP / hostname for indexing, and OS version, take neglible bandwidth to run, and, I believe, doesn't give out any *sensitive* information ... Then have a daily_statistics_enable="YES" in /etc/defaults/perodic.conf, so that ppl can opt out of it ... ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664
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