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Date:      Sat, 10 Feb 2007 08:39:13 +0100
From:      Michael Nottebrock <lofi@freebsd.org>
To:        Ian Smith <smithi@nimnet.asn.au>
Cc:        stable@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: pppd crashes, was: kde-freebsd] Question about KPPP on FreeBSD
Message-ID:  <200702100839.18511.lofi@freebsd.org>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.3.96.1070210164559.1793C-100000@gaia.nimnet.asn.au>
References:  <Pine.BSF.3.96.1070210164559.1793C-100000@gaia.nimnet.asn.au>

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On Saturday, 10. February 2007 07:34, Ian Smith wrote:

> Since once trying (and failing) to debug or even comprehend a spaghetti
> of scripts and configs behind a dialout-only linux pppd setup some years
> ago, compared to the much more straightforward ppp with mgetty setup for
> both dialout and some dialin modem lines I'd built pretty much from the
> FreeBSD Handbook even at 2.2.6 with nary a problem, regressing for sake
> of 'compatibility' with a linux-based sub-application seems silly.

Well, kppp makes configuring dialout easy. Or attempts to, at least. :)

> I agree with you about this not being a KPPP bug (though searching KDE
> bugs for 'kppp' provides no shortage of hits!) and appreciate that KDE
> people have no interest in catering for user ppp, since it's not linux,
> despite or perhaps because of its obvious superiority to FreeBSD people.
>
> Maybe at least the KPPP 'documentation', such as it is, could at least
> mention that it doesn't support FreeBSD's ppp over tun devices, to avoid
> the expectation that it should work that gave rise to this thread.

It kinda does. It says right in the about dialog and in the very first line=
 of=20
its online help: "A dialer and front end for pppd".

> And yes, if pppd is broken and won't be fixed, it should disappear.

And when that happens, so will kppp (it won't build once the if_ppp.h heade=
r=20
is gone). Which of course would solve the problem in a way. In any case: I=
=20
dragged this issue onto -stable precisely to attract attention to the probl=
em=20
and hopefully motivate someone to get down and write some code, whether for=
=20
pppd or kppp, I really don't care much.


Cheers,
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