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Date:      Mon, 25 Aug 1997 20:24:18 -0400 (EDT)
From:      Chuck Robey <chuckr@glue.umd.edu>
To:        Mike Smith <mike@smith.net.au>
Cc:        hcremean@vt.edu, chat@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Since the MicroSloth(tm) jokes have been flowing... 
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.3.96.970825202010.1888D-100000@Journey2.mat.net>
In-Reply-To: <199708260001.JAA01828@word.smith.net.au>

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On Tue, 26 Aug 1997, Mike Smith wrote:

> > 
> > Agree completely.  I'm doing a project for the University of Maryland,
> > using Borland tools to do a very stripped down 32 bit OS for students.
> > The most difficult part?  Avoiding all the Microsoft hooks in the code,
> > which means decompiling the obj files and literally plucking out the
> > Windows calls.
> 
> So use the Delorie tools.  No MS hooks, already a flat 32-bit model, 
> and gosh, you can crossdevelop for it under FreeBSD 8)

You really think I'm voluntarily using the Borland Tools??

1) you're completely right.
2) Doesn't matter, I can't get the prof to agree.

I thought to this about 3 months ago, fought that battle, lost.

> 
> We did a project a while back where I started on a DOS system with the 
> Delorie tools, moved to OS/2 and emx (still targetting go32), then to 
> FreeBSD, still targetting DOS/go32.  At the same time, there were no MS 
> or Borland tools around that could have given us what we needed (a 
> flat 32-bit DOS extended with inbuilt VM).  Watcom _might_, but the 
> four-figure pricetag was totally out of the question.

In fact, you _can_ get it to work with Borland.  WDOSX as a dos extender
does it, and the Borland 32 bit mode is flat.  I don't say you'd enjoy
doing it, but you _can_ get it working, C code.

> 
> (Oh, you get all the source, too 8)
> 
> mike
> 
> 
> 
> 

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