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Date:      Mon, 31 Oct 2011 11:45:44 -0300
From:      Zantgo <zantgo@gmail.com>
To:        Joe Gain <joe.gain@gmail.com>
Cc:        Alejandro Imass <ait@p2ee.org>, Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de>, "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: The ports are really funcional?
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then, as the system must be configured?, I thought as I was was perfect. I h=
ave a laptop with intel core i5.=20

PS: I think that occupying FreeBSD or OpenBSD, and you should consider ;)

Zantgo

El 31-10-2011, a las 6:12, Joe Gain <joe.gain@gmail.com> escribi=C3=B3:

> I agree, the ports are *amazing*. Even when installing a major component
> like kde4. If you have your base system set up correctly this very complex=

> task will generally complete flawlessly. For a first-time install you can
> accept most of the default options when configuring, but it's probably not=

> a good idea to just blindly accept every default.
>=20
> Experiment with the different port management software until you find
> something which you like. Read the documentation about dealing with common=

> issues, making backups, saving compiler/ installation errors, etc.
>=20
> If you are having many problems with ports which require few dependencies,=

> you may have a non-ports related issue of some kind.
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> My entire system is ports based and I belong more to the user than the
> hacker class.
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> Good luck!
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> On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 4:05 AM, Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de> wrote:
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>> On Sun, 30 Oct 2011 22:36:44 -0400, Alejandro Imass wrote:
>>> For very large packages such as the graphics system, open or libre
>>> office etc. it's much better to use binary versions via pkg_add. It's
>>> a waste of time to compile these very large suites and most of the
>>> time you will get the config options wrong, and they take forever to
>>> compile.
>>=20
>> Exceptions:
>>=20
>> 1) You need language-specific settings.
>>  Example: OpenOffice in German.
>>=20
>> 2) You need others than the default options, e. g. if you
>>  want to include or exclude some stuff.
>>  Example: OpenOffice without KDE.
>>=20
>> 3) You need options to be set at compile time that do differ
>>  from the default options from which the binary packages
>>  are made, or because of "artificially shit in your pants"
>>  legal requirements and restrictions.
>>  Example: mplayer with mencoder and all (!) codecs
>>=20
>> 4) You need to speed up things to make them run on older
>>  hardware, and you fight for every optimization.
>>  Example: mplayer's RUNTIME_CPU_DETECTION.
>>=20
>> But this is, I think, a case for 1% of users only. You
>> hardly need to do that. In most cases, the default options
>> are fine, and the binary packages just work.
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>>> For things you want to tailor and optimize to your needs then use the
>>> ports system. FBSD is so cool that it doesn't matter if you install
>>> one way or the other and you can use almost all methods
>>> interchangeably.
>>=20
>> A managament tool (such as portmaster or portupgrade) helps
>> to keep an eye on dependencies when using the many possible
>> ways.
>>=20
>>=20
>> --
>> Polytropon
>> Magdeburg, Germany
>> Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0
>> Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...
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