Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 23:00:23 -0300 (ADT) From: "Marc G. Fournier" <scrappy@hub.org> To: Adam McGreggor <adam-fbsd@amyl.org.uk> Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OSS Control Panel to manage FreeBSD jails ... ? Message-ID: <alpine.BSF.2.00.1007212213030.69490@hub.org> In-Reply-To: <20100721212515.GL28385@hendricks.amyl.org.uk> References: <alpine.BSF.2.00.1007211537530.69490@hub.org> <20100721203253.GK28385@hendricks.amyl.org.uk> <alpine.BSF.2.00.1007211800050.69490@hub.org> <C842B271-8C7B-45EB-A45A-FC016C67A079@mac.com> <20100721212515.GL28385@hendricks.amyl.org.uk>
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On Wed, 21 Jul 2010, Adam McGreggor wrote: > On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 02:15:43PM -0700, Chuck Swiger wrote: >> Was there something wrong with webmin? > > I'd rephrase that to is there anything *right* about webmin. > > *hate*, *hate*, *hate*. > > no histories/versioning, straight edits, often-run-on-default-port, > lets-one-change-things-without-understanding-why-it's-a-bad-thing, and > so on. 'k, I wouldn't go to the extent of 'hate', but, at least when I looked at it way back when, there is no concept of a 'central console' ... or has that changed? Right now, I have one console that everyone logs into to do things (and one to maintain / upgrade / debug), while with webmin, I would have hundreds of them ... and I'd still need seperate solutions for, say, support tickets ... If that is a solution for you, then something like DTC will far blow away webmin ... its a nice clean interface, includes billing, etc, etc ... ... but again, you are talking about hundreds of installs that need to be maintained / upgraded / debugged ... With my current system, although it doesn't have all the features that I'd like, if I fix a bug that one client reports with the system, I fix *all* clients ... Here is some screenshots of what I mean: http://www.hub.org/~scrappy/ams/ ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. scrappy@hub.org http://www.hub.org Yahoo:yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ:7615664 MSN:scrappy@hub.org
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