Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 13:37:14 -0400 From: Uncle George <gatgul@voicenet.com> To: Nate Williams <nate@yogotech.com> Cc: Maxim Sobolev <sobomax@FreeBSD.org>, nate@FreeBSD.org, java@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: java for FreeBSD/alpha Message-ID: <3AE073CA.181ACED4@voicenet.com> References: <3AD882C5.EEEC722@voicenet.com> <3ADC3018.9D9F7E08@FreeBSD.org> <15068.24769.146325.318029@nomad.yogotech.com> <3ADC7EBD.A5D5FE7E@voicenet.com> <15068.25961.466201.569075@nomad.yogotech.com> <3ADC831A.720F92CC@voicenet.com> <15068.27106.728509.935881@nomad.yogotech.com> <3AE059B6.2F002CB5@voicenet.com> <15072.23328.902845.309887@nomad.yogotech.com>
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Nate Williams wrote:
> > that a single 500mhz, 21164 processor ( akin to a pent II maybe, where
> > the newer 21264 alpha chip has a sorta "doubler" ) with 4 gig disk.
>
> Sounds right.
>
> > did u folks get a JIT with the java src code ( even if it is for the
> > i386 ) .
>
> Well, we got the Solaris JIT for Sparc, but that's part of the stock
> download. Otherwise, we don't have a JIT. (Unlike the Blackdown folks
> who got a JIT for x86 only.)
Is it in SRC form? or just the standard binary distribution. If its written
in generic 'c', then maybe there is a chance to get it to go. I think that
metrolink had at one time a generic JIT - i suppose u have to fill in the
blanks for each CPU architecture. u also need to sign a NDA for it. I dont
know if its still avail.
>
>
> > I suppose this would mean that SUN is treating u like the commercial
> > guys, and not giving u crippled code.
>
> I get early drops and the whole nine-yards. Unfortunately, because Sun
> didn't own the early JIT (it was sub-licensed from Symantec), they don't
> give out source code to it.
>
> > I'm curious as to why SUN does not want to support u folks
> > with a JCK.
>
> We have access to the JCK. What we don't have is a binary distribution
> license.
>
You dont ? then why would anybody want to work on this project IF its very
likely that the end results will never see "light of day" . I originally
thought u had license to distribute ( ie a bin license ) but no JCK to test
like it once was with NON-COMMERCIAL licensees. do u have a (written)
promise of a bin distribution license if u pass all of the JCK tests ?
>
> > would it be possible to also get the Java3D code. I'd also like to
> > complete that code so I can get into the vrml/java code that some
> > folks have been doing. If not, i'll have to go the the i386/linux side
> > of things :{
>
> We'd need a port to the Alpha before any of that was done. :(
>
Does that mean that Java3D is avail ( or contemplated ) for the i386/bsd
port ? There are native routines that need to be ported, otherwise it would
be listed as a "pure java" product.
>
> Nate
Any official (officious) BSD/Java web site that u folks use to distribute
info/binaries of the project ?
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