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Date:      Tue, 30 Nov 2004 17:09:42 -0800
From:      "Jason C. Wells" <jcw@highperformance.net>
To:        =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=F8rgrav?= <des@des.no>
Cc:        freebsd-chat@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: The beastie boot menu.
Message-ID:  <E4CA6BE85D4FCB85D8F84193@[192.168.1.16]>
In-Reply-To: <xzpis7nheik.fsf@dwp.des.no>
References:  <20041129024602.GA23324@turingmachine.mentalsiege.net> <1101748454.41ab58e61eb88@imp2-q.free.fr><xzpis7nheik.fsf@dwp.des.no>

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--On Tuesday, November 30, 2004 10:28 AM +0100 Dag-Erling Sm=F8rgrav=20
<des@des.no> wrote:

> "Jason C. Wells" <jcw@highperformance.net> writes:
>> The beastie menu is just another level of complexity.  It has very
>> little to do with anything.  I had to learn about Forth in order to
>> figure out how to turn it off.
>
> You can't have learned much if you think
>
># echo 'beastie_disable=3D"YES"' >> /boot/loader.conf
>
> has anything to do with Forth.

You are correct.  I did not learn much.  I deleted beastie.4th from one of=20
the boot scripts.  I don't think beastie_disable was around when I was=20
monkeying with this, or I missed it in the docs.  That wasn't the point.

The point was that the boot menu doesn't add anything to the usability and=20
that in at least one case, it was an unwelcome distraction.  The deletion=20
of the menu is of little significance to regular users.  I didn't even know =

such a thing existed until I recently did my first work on the console in=20
several years.  In fact, I haven't even looked to see if my remaining 4X=20
boxes have this menu. If I would have done my upgrade to 5X yesterday=20
rather than a month ago, I would never have known that the darned thing=20
ever appeared in the system.

It's just not important, not even to regular users.  The claim that FreeBSD =

is not suitable to regular users because the beastie menu is gone is silly.

Later,
Jason C. Wells




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