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Date:      Wed, 18 Nov 1998 12:49:59 -0500 (EST)
From:      Chuck Robey <chuckr@mat.net>
To:        ben@rosengart.com
Cc:        Gary Kline <kline@thought.org>, Nik Clayton <nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk>, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: /etc/rc.d, and changes to /etc/rc?
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.05.9811181245590.27295-100000@picnic.mat.net>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.02.9811181032070.16284-100000@echonyc.com>

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On Wed, 18 Nov 1998, Snob Art Genre wrote:

> On Tue, 17 Nov 1998, Gary Kline wrote:
> 
> > 	I'm surprised to hear this.  I'd say go with it.  The 
> > 	differences between BSD and the SYSV rc files|directories
> > 	is one of the most significant differences between the two
> > 	models.  
> > 
> > 	Your ideas would be a win-win.
> 
> I agree strongly.  Sometimes sending something a signal is not all that
> needs to be done to kill it cleanly.  A mechanism for glue logic can be
> valuable.  I have just recently started adminning Solaris, after a
> couple of years only using various BSDs, and the start and stop scripts
> are one of my favorite features.

It seems to me that what we ought to be asking for are the hooks, so
those of us that *do* like run-levels *can* have them.  I don't think we
should force everyone to have such a thing, but wouldn't it be possible
to have the run levels *without* requiring those that think they are
evil to have to implement a changed startup?

I'm asking for a system where the legacy rc is there for those who want
it (and would probably be installed by default) but a system of
run-levels and rc.d type stuff would be feasible.  Such a thing could
then even be a port.  I think such an approach would short-circuit most
of the complaints, and let the idea move forward with coding.


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